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Dish Retrans Dispute with Fox over 50% Hike (Closed Thread)

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by RasputinAXP, Sep 9, 2010.

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  1. Davenlr

    Davenlr Geek til I die

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    I agree. Either that, and/or allow US to choose to subscribe to whatever affiliates we want like we used to be able to.
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    I've always said that. I get my locals OTA, why would I pay Dish or anyone else for that? However, I'd like to get locals from the city I moved from years ago that's about 600 miles away. I might be willing to pay for that.

    What about all the snowbirds? They go to Florida or Arizona for six months so why shouldn't they be able to get locals from their home city in Michigan, Minnesota or wherever while they're away?
     
  3. DodgerKing

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    The point I was making is that the number of Dish only subs in these areas, where the only way they are able to watch Fox is directly through Dish, is such a small proportion that the impact on Fox's ratings directly will not be very significant.
     
  4. James Long

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    It is when government intervention created the problem in the first place. Giving stations the right to prohibit rebroadcast of their signals within their own broadcast area is the core of the problem. I'd make every station "must carry".

    The limits of technology. Satellite space is limited enough without making every market ConUS just so a few people could take their locals with them. There are only a few hours a day on the best stations where the content would be any different than watching the "where they are" version (local news and news/weather inserts on morning programs) with many stations opting out of local content.

    I like the idea only because it puts pressure on the stations to "play ball" and allow their feeds to be carried within their market. I'd love to be able to watch the four markets surrounding mine for "almost local" content. The spot beams are large enough that I could watch them all (if it were legal).
     
  5. James Long

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    Unfortunately we will only KNOW when the overnight ratings come in after the OTA contract expires. One would hope a deal would be struck before then - but every passing workday makes it more likely that one will not.
     
  6. jerry downing

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    The use of spot beams would make the reception of local stations from distant locations impossible.
     
  7. Davenlr

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    If you were around before and at the start of DBS, you would have been able to subscribe to a package of networks (one of each) from either New York, Denver, or Los Angeles if you chose to, rather than your "locals". There is no reason they could not add those back again, if the FCC reversed its previous rule making this illegal to protect the ad sales of the local stations.

    If this were to happen, DIsh could simply replace a O & O Fox affiliate with a privately owned on, that would sell on the cheap to gain the viewers.
     
  8. James Long

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    Actually the networks and affiliate groups sued to get those packages removed. The way the laws ended up getting written they PERMIT carriage under strict conditions ... overriding the outcome of the suits that would have restricted all rebroadcasts.

    The flaw was allowing stations to restrict local into local carriage. No one would be worried about ever losing a local OTA broadcaster if "Must Carry" was the only option.
     
  9. adkinsjm

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    A decent sports bar will have DirecTV for Sunday Ticket and Extra Innings.
     
  10. mlcarson

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    As long as FoxNews isn't affect, I'm good. I wish Dish would get more aggressive with ESPN and the other sports packages if the costs are as previously stated. I watch none of them and just have the $25/mo package. A-la-cart is looking better and better.
     
  11. Joe Diver

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    I did Thursday. PM me and we'll discuss the HR24 rather than here in this thread.
     
  12. Amon37

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    no thanks, I'll take one solution that provides what I need.
     
  13. Jhon69

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    The 625 does not have an OTA ATSC tuner,only a pass through to access your antenna connection with your Dish Network remote control.:(
     
  14. lparsons21

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    I have that with Dish. One antenna, one dish, and both Vip HDDVRs that handle them seamlessly, even giving me more flexibility in recording. With 3 events at once on one of them, and 4 events on the other, no other SAT HDDVR from any other provider does that.
     
  15. lparsons21

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    Yeah, I was wrong on that. When my son had his at my house, I thought it would do it, but we never got him an OTA signal to his unit.
     
  16. Jhon69

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    I was surprised to see how many digital channels are out there now,of course there's no HBO or Comedy Central.;)

    I went to www.tvguide.com to see the listings and channels available in my area.:)
     
  17. adkinsjm

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    It all depends on where you live. We have the Big 4, with ABC as a widescreen SD subchannel, plus PBS with two sub-channels. Not much.
     
  18. lparsons21

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    Other than the big 4, CW and PBS, the rest of ours are all religious channels. Not my particular cup of tea. I do use the OTA quite a bit though. I can get 2 of the OTA channels rock solid anytime, and the rest work OK most of the time but a bit flakey.

    The local Fox station is one of those that is a bit flakey with signal dropouts on occasion, normally an issue in the daytime, but not so much at night.
     
  19. Jhon69

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    Our local Fox station has a digital channel that shows alot of movies,our local NBC channel has a digital channel that has it looks like 24 hour weather.:)
     
  20. lparsons21

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    Our local Fox station has either changed ownership from one of the other locals or is so broke that they changed from using one of the other local news to another's local news.

    I think it was the local CBS's stations news for quite awhile, and on the 1st of October changed to the NBC's stations news now.

    And we do have 2 24-hour weather locals as a sub channel. PBS has 3 additional sub channels, 1 of which is just an SD of the HD signal, the other is different, and one is a test pattern.
     
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