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DISH Sound Levels

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by BillJ, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. BillJ

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    Is it my imagination or has DISH reduced sound levels recently? We pretty knew the sound level to set our TV at on the digital scale displayed when adjusting volume. For most channels it was 36. A few channels had to be set a little higher. Some SD channels running older programming could be set lower. Lately it seems we have to push most channels up about 4 points. Makes me wonder if DISH has reduced volume on everything.
     
  2. crodrules

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    It may depend on which type of receiver you are using. Earlier this week, my sister was having problems with her ViP722k, so I replaced it with a spare ViP612 I had laying around, and after the switch, she was surprised at how loud the volume was on her channels, compared to what she was used to.
     
  3. Tiny

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    I’ve had the problem also with VIP 722 if u go into system set up click on audio between line or RF select RF setting it helps a little , but my locals r still louder than Dish channels ...
     
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  4. James Long

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    How long had it been a spare? Did it take a software update after reactivating it?
     
  5. crodrules

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    It hadn't been activated since last April, but I hooked it back up to a satellite signal last month when I had some spare time, because I was planning to reactivate it this month anyway before the cut-off date for activating ViP DVRs. I don't know what software version it had before, but if it needed new software, I assume it took the download sometime during the last month when it was in standby.
     
  6. Feb 9, 2018 #6 of 12
    satcrazy

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    Great...
    Sound levels are all over the place. [ SD is really loud when you change channels]

    I also notice "COMMERCIALS" are getting LOUD AGAIN.

    Do not notice this on the Roku.

    What happened to that law that was passed by FCC to not increase level of commercials?
     
  7. NYDutch

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    The CALM (Commercial Advertisement Loudness Mitigation) act says that the average loudness of the commercial cannot exceed the average loudness of the program it accompanies. The key word in that though, is "average". That means the ad producer can make key parts of the ad louder than normal as long as the overall average level is not louder. Enabling and/or adjusting any available automatic gain, audio compression, or audio limiter controls on your TV or sound system can at least somewhat mitigate the problem.
     
  8. Michael P

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    The CALM Act is an example of legislation by representatives who don't have a clue on how audio works. Replacing the word "average" with "peak" may have resulted in the desired effect. Actually "perceived volume" would have been the best verbiage. "Average" audio levels sound very different when compressed. The loophole in the CALM Act was the fact that hard compression could be used on commercial audio while employing a softer compression setting on program audio. On a VU meter the hard compressed audio of the commercials never go over the peak limit. Program audio also never go over the peak limit either, but sound much lower due to less compression. So people naturally set their audio level to the program audio and wonder why the commercials sound loud. On an average VU meter they both appear to be the same, except for the fact that the commercials keep the meter at the top while the program has more variation. Those of you who remember AM Top 40 radio of the 60's will remember that over-compressed sound. The VU meters needles actually stood still at the top (instead of varying with the sound). Today a similar process is done on digital music files called "brick-walling". In both cases the absolute levels never go over the limit.
     
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  9. NYDutch

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    Yep, I didn't say the CALM act did what it was intended to do... ;)
     
  10. Jon J

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    Audio levels are all over the place on my H3 and have been for a couple of months varying greatly by channel.
     
  11. pakcyclist

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    You can turn on the audio leveling thing in the menu to fix that.
     
  12. Jon J

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    Did that and it may help some on individual programs but not between channels.
     

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