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Dish: "The meanest company in America"?

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by bobukcat, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. Jan 4, 2013 #21 of 100

    olds403 Godfather

    Nov 20, 2007
    I work for state government, and my employees are responsible for auditing employee travel expenses. I hear this argument once in a while. Our travel regulations clearly state that we will only reimburse up to 15% on meals. That being said, employees are free to leave tips bigger than 15% they just won't be reimbursed for it. I think if people are so concerned about the size of the tip on expensed meals they should not have a problem with it coming out of their own pocket.
  2. Jan 4, 2013 #22 of 100

    domingos35 Icon

    Jan 11, 2006
    the truth hurts buster
  3. Jan 5, 2013 #23 of 100

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    Does that include your posts? :sure:
  4. Jan 5, 2013 #24 of 100
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Since you are spending my money (the taxpayer's money) I especially appreciate not spending more that what is reasonable and customary.

    If a person wants to give a tip that is higher than reasonable and customary it should be on that person. The employee is spending the company's (or in your case, the public's) money. The same goes for the price of the meal or lodging or any other expense charged to the company.

    People should be generous with their own money ... not others.
  5. Jan 5, 2013 #25 of 100

    sregener Godfather

    Apr 17, 2012
    I found the complaint about no paid holidays to be a very strange one. Television is not something that gets used only "during normal business hours." Usage would increase on holidays and weekends, making it a 24x7 industry. Medical institutions typically don't have paid holidays, either. It's part of the business to be available at all hours. No mention is made in the article as to whether they receive more than average vacation time to make up for the lack of paid holidays. So if they get 4 weeks of vacation at the start instead of 2, but no paid holidays, they really aren't worse off.

    I found the section on requiring employees to be in on time a bit odd, but you can also see that by going to fingerprint scanning because people were cheating under the old system that the problems management are dealing with are real. If people had been honest, the old card system would still be in place. Probably most people were honest, but they don't put heavy locks and alarms on the doors of the jewelry store because most people are thieves...
  6. Jan 5, 2013 #26 of 100
    Ray C@DISH Network

    Ray C@DISH Network DISH Representative DISH Representative

    Dec 28, 2010
    No, I speak from the positive side... the Force by with me!

  7. Jan 5, 2013 #27 of 100

    damondlt New Member

    Feb 27, 2006
    And from the side that gets paid! :lol:
  8. Jan 5, 2013 #28 of 100

    Satelliteracer Hall Of Fame

    Dec 6, 2006
    Maybe, but when one becomes two, two becomes four, four becomes eight....patterns are hard to ignore.
  9. Jan 5, 2013 #29 of 100

    rocat1997 Cool Member

    May 17, 2011
    I find dish to be exceptionally good. Never experienced a bad employee on the phone. Directs equipment sucks. I had them for years and their receiver had constant problems. Dish may not be perfect, but, they are close enough. As far as their employee's, that's not my concern. No job is great today but its a paying job. I am a customer and all that counts is how I am treated which has been stellar so far.
  10. Jan 5, 2013 #30 of 100

    SayWhat? Know Nothing

    Jun 6, 2009
    Or asking people in jails about their experiences with the police and the courts.
  11. Jan 5, 2013 #31 of 100

    DEC Legend

    Jan 6, 2008
    Yeah, you're absolutely right, the truth can hurt ... and I do feel your pain bub. :lol:
  12. Jan 5, 2013 #32 of 100

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    From the article (emphasis added):
    Basically, it's Charlie's company as founder and majority shareholder. When he's right he wins and when he's wrong he loses.

    The man's known to be combative and aggressive with a strong "you can't do that to me" attitude. The question is: "How do you like your Hopper?" It could only come from a company aggressively willing take on the media industry. And that company is owned by Charlie. If you choose to go to work for Dish, that's who you're working for.
  13. Jan 5, 2013 #33 of 100

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    I choose to do business with those who are ethical and well run. Therefore, I choose not to do business with Dish Network.
  14. Jan 5, 2013 #34 of 100

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    The terms "ethical" and "well run" are subjective.

    In the corporate world according to Wall Street "well run" means "makes money today" and nothing more.

    In my world, I choose to do business with those who offer products I want based on quality, features, convenience, and price. I've used Echostar/Dish equipment since 1988 beginning with C-band.

    I have no idea about the "ethics" of a major company because I don't have credible sources beyond my own experience. If I really were to focus deeply on morality, I'd "live off the grid", walk everywhere, eat vegan, not use any electronics of any kind, give most of my retirement income to the needy, and slowly go crazy.
  15. Jan 5, 2013 #35 of 100

    puckwithahalo Hall Of Fame

    Sep 2, 2007
    I'm not sure if its different for salary folks, but I (and all the other hourly dish employees I know) get 7 paid holidays a year (new years, easter, fourth of july, labor day, thanksgiving, black friday, and christmas), and if I work on the holiday, I get the holiday pay plus my regular pay. So, not sure where the no paid holidays part comes from, unless its salary folks.
  16. Jan 5, 2013 #36 of 100
    Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    What pattern? That disgruntled ex-employees are disgruntled?

    Again, not defending Dish... I don't know enough to do so... but seriously, what pattern emerges by only asking questions of a targeted group?

    100% of women who divorced their husbands due to adultery think men are adulterers... Wow, what a great survey! :rolleyes:

    Somehow I doubt you really know that much about all the businesses you engage with... otherwise, you probably would not be able to do much business.
  17. Jan 5, 2013 #37 of 100

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    I know enough about Dish to not do business with them. Some people don't mind being associated with crooks, others do.
  18. Jan 5, 2013 #38 of 100

    fourhokiefans Cool Member

    Jul 26, 2009
    What a self righteous, indignant statement. Your post implies that those of us who do subscribe to Dish are making a choice to associate with crooks -which is nothing less than asinine. What I find interesting about this forum is that I expect my comment to be censored for criticizing your statement, while your post blatantly calling someone a crook without any basis will probably be allowed to remain. TROLL:D
  19. Jan 5, 2013 #39 of 100

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    I don't read it as that. OTOH, you've become quite personal...
  20. Jan 5, 2013 #40 of 100

    phrelin Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Jan 18, 2007
    Dish isn't a person I associate with. Neither is Walmart or Apple.

    Sometimes high level employees of these companies do things I don't like, but I'm not going to choose not to order using my iPad something I need that is available through Walmart's web site at an incredibly low price. That doesn't mean I associate with anyone at either company.

    Dish Network cannot be mean or a crook, only some of the people who work for it can be mean if they choose. I haven't met any mean Dish employees or crooks among them, but if I do I won't associate with them.

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