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Dish Vs DirecTv

Discussion in 'General Satellite Discussion' started by CrazyGuy, Nov 19, 2012.

  1. joshjr

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    Further more Harsh, here is a list of things I wrote for each provider when someone was deciding on who to go with or better yet who not to go with. I tried to post what I knew and or heard were problems for both. While I carry DirecTV, I do not claim they are perfect either. See below. I am sure there are things on both sides I missed.

    If you want to lose channels for periods of time due to contract disputes, not have Sunday Ticket, not have MLB Xtra Innings, not have Mega March Madness, not have other missing HD sports channels, have receivers shut off if you dont keep a phone plugged into them, dont mind the website having information outdated by 5+ years, don't mind the CSR's not being able to answer questions until you have active service with Dish, then DISH is the provider for you. You should sign up today.

    If you want to have slower equipment, no sling box, less storage space on the top HD DVR, not have your commercials removed from prime time recordins automatically, not be able to have one receiver control 2 TV's, be restricted to one top level HD DVR on the account, pay and HD fee for life, get incorrectly billed with a hassle getting it removed, lack of premium movie channals available then DirecTV is the provider for you. You should sign up with them today.
     
  2. lparsons21

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    You've given good reasons for you not to consider a switch.

    But since you DID mention it, you must have looked at a very old thread to find one about phone line connection with Dish as that hasn't been a requirement for a very long time.

    In your installation switching anywhere would result in a big upfront cost and wouldn't make sense imo. I wouldn't consider changing in that circumstance myself and I'm a big fan of switching! But I have to wonder what the heck you do with 15 tuners? I can't think of a single hour of any day/night that there are even half that many channels worth watching at the same time. But that's just me! :)

    I have a 2 Hopper installation and haven't had a single issue of missing a show yet and all my shows are on just one of the Hoppers. My son uses his even less than I do, though he does use PIP with some sports. And even though some of those sports are in SD, they are very watcheable with Dish, which certainly is not true of SD with Direct.

    I suspect that I'll be making a switch in about 12-15 months though to take advantage of some cost savings, and hopefully by then D* will allow for 2 HR44s.
     
  3. RichP74

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    I had a good laugh, but most of this is pure exaggeration. I did tons and tons of research last week when deciding whether to go with Dish or Direct, and very few of these things you list are huge deals. Some of these no longer apply, like the dish receiver phone line thing. They didn't even do that when I last had Dish years ago.

    The reality is that both Dish and Direct are very, very good services in their present state. It was a much easier choice years ago because the differences were more stark.

    For me, it came down to the Hopper/Joey setup being a bit more mature and snappier than the Genie. Also, I liked Dish's iPad 2 offer over the free season of NFL Sunday Ticket (THAT was a really, really tough call as well!). The fact is, I saw everything else being largely equivalent. It is a far different story than it was years ago, when DirecTV's HD picture quality was embarrassingly bad. They certainly turned that around, though. Honestly, at the end of the day I would have been delighted with either service compared to the Charter TV I had been paying for for the last 4-5 years.

    The fanboyism and trolling is honestly ridiculous. As somebody who had to deal with both the Dish 7100 (or whatever their first god awful DVR was), and DirecTV's flaky as hell first gen HD boxes (yes, I was a customer of theirs back then as well!), it's almost like everyone has forgotten how far both services have come.

    Anyway, rant over. Enjoy your TV this weekend, gentlemen, especially if you're supposed to get rain all weekend like I am!
     
  4. joshjr

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    The sports issues alone are a show stopper for me. I want Sunday Ticket and am finding I love MLB Xtra Innings this year as well. I would really have to think about if I wanted to put up with all the other headaches that come with Dish even if the sports problem went away. As for my tuner needs, its more along the lines of having TV available in multiple locations and they might as well be HD DVR's then it is me needing that many tuners. I own 4 of the 6 boxes. The Genie controls my TV only. I need 5 tuners for me and the rest of among the family in the rest of the house.
     
  5. joshjr

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    Being an exaggeration vs a big deal are different things. The only thing I see posted that I guess changes was the phone cord to the Dish DVR's. The rest of what I posted is very true. Might not be a big deal but it is true.
     
  6. RichP74

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    Contract disputes affect everybody, even the cable guys. In the last few years of Charter, I lost all kinds of channels. They didn't have the NFL Network for FIVE YEARS.

    The Sunday Ticket is compelling. No question. If the NFL trumps everything else for you, you would have to be a straight up moron to go with any other service. Personally, I'm happy with Red Zone. Sunday Ticket has just gotten too pricey, plus I'm a fan of my home market team, so really I would just be paying to avoid the odd Sunday late game that sucks.

    No idea what you're talking about with 5+ year old info on Dish's website. Really has no bearing on anything.

    The Genie is a version 1.0 device. I'm sure it will get better, and quickly. You're also wrong about the lack of Sling-like behavior, the Genie appears to have similar functionality. It's iOS only, so I can see you caring if you have an Android tablet.

    Stupid CSRs are everywhere. However, I do like that Dish apparently has reps on all the major forums, and I found them very responsive on their own forum as well. Far better service than I would get by calling them.

    So, yes. Your post was full of exaggeration and half truths. Sorry brah. No biggie.
     
  7. lparsons21

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    I fully understand the sports issues, they are real and I know lots of people that watch a ton of sports. For me, it is boxing and golf, which are both well covered by both services and in fact, Dish has some channels that have less occurring boxing that D* doesn't. Like Bein sports, the Military Channel (not sure if D* has this one), and Epix. Not always the hottest boxers on them, and the Military Channel has military boxing, but a good match is a good match even if the names are not well known. Golf on both is covered well enough on both as I tend to watch matches between catnaps. D* does do more coverage of some of the majors, but I never used the extra coverages so I don't miss them.

    My 3 tuners w/PTAT does it for me as the cable type shows are rerun incessantly so that contentions for recording are just not an issue. I've got so many series recorded that I'm way behind in watching them. I've got about 60 timers set and have used up about 1/2 of my internal HD with series and some rare one-off movies that I watch and delete. Movies I watch more than once are on my EHD.

    In my case, both services are nearly identical and I have always gotten good service from both companies. I don't find the CSRs at either company to be overly endowed with knowledge nor ability to give proper and consistent answers. I do like the chat feature that E* has because that helps with understanding and proving an issue if needed.

    My pet peeve with both services isn't really the service's fault at all, and that is with the premium movie channels. I like a few series they have and the boxing that HBO/SHO/Epix have, but those shows take up very little of the month. The rest of the time it is endless repeats of movies, most of which I don't care to watch. At $45+/month for all of them, it can be very irritating when I think about it.
     
  8. joshjr

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    For the old information on their website, go to where you can see what locals are offered, enter 74354 (We dont have a CW affiliate here) and see that Superstations are offered. The funny thing is the ones offered are not CW or My Network TV. They are UPN and WB. Neither have been in business since 2006. As for the slower receivers with DirecTV, that is just from what people post but you yourself admit they will be faster but I was not just referring to the Genie. The sling box allows people to watch TV live from somewhere else. I have a iPad but the content you can watch out of your home is very very limited. Thats not really the same as a sling box. As for the reps, granted that is with every company. It has been my experience that I have NEVER had a call with Dish ever where they were able to answer all of my questions. Not one single time. So if you take that one off and the fact that Dish allowed receivers to function without a phone cable that is 2 things not most things in my list.
     
  9. RichP74

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    Ah, that is a shame. I could swear Direct advertised being able to watch live TV using an iPad. I'm sure they'll add it soon, regardless. It's a pretty compelling feature, and it sounds like they're most of the way there with allowing DVR'ed shows.
     
  10. joshjr

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    You can, at home on the same network the receivers are on. Dish has 7 year old UNTRUE information on their site. Your description of DirecTV's is not even close to 7 years old and you can watch live tv on an iPad. Nice try though.
     
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    RichP74

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    You can't watch it on a Cellular connection? That is pretty pointless.
     
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    lparsons21

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    It isn't pointless, but it isn't very flexible. Live TV on your portable device as long as you're in your own network is OK, but nothing to crow about.

    I like that I can view live or recorded from anywhere that I can get on the internet much better.
     
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    harsh

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    If I had been referring to you, I would have used the reference "you" or "studechip". As it is, I referenced, very specifically, DIRECTV fanboys.

    Use of the argument does not necessarily make one part of the class.
     
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    harsh

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    While some of these arguments are valid, a handful of them are false and as such, your post does more damage to your reputation than it does impugn the offerings of DISH or elevate DIRECTV as the clear choice.

    My point is that everyone's perspective is different. Insisting that the presence or absence of an individual's hand-picked group of channels makes all the difference is silly.

    I've never suggested that DIRECTV isn't the best match for you as an individual. I only question some of the arguments that appear to have lead you to that conclusion.
     
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    joshjr

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    I think I will live but thanks for your concern.
     
  16. RasputinAXP

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    ESPN 3D's ready to go away, now. I could see the rest going poof soon too.
     
  17. damondlt

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    What does this have to do with anything.
    3D has been dead before it was alive, Has nothing to do with Directv or Dish Network.

    Its got to do with the public not falling for a dumb yuppy premium gimmick Like 3D TV.
     

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