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Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Conway, Nov 1, 2010.
Then don't gripe about the channels not being available.
Well, that's a personal choice. The channels are there, you CHOOSE not to get them.
"Kids smarter than parents" and "kids bossing parents without correction" are two major problems with children's programming today. The are teaching kids to disrespect their elders.
^^ Well, that isn't all that new (Alex Keaton, Samantha Micelli), but what is new is the parents are more like caricatures than they used to be, if they're shown at all. Some of the Disney shows with kids don't even show the parents.
Ah, Disney and parents. This has been going on a long time.Look back at most of the Disney movies EVER made. How many have both parents?
Did Snow White? No, just a wicked Stepmother
Even the current ones...
Litttle Mermaid - no mom
Beauty and the Beast - no Mom
Toy Story? No Dad
The two that come to mind that didn't follow this are Sleeping Beauty - although the parents went to sleep, and 101 Dalmations - again, 101 puppies with no parents.
Interesting, isn't it.
You don't understand, as I have said already, again, I can't get the SD versions on HD absolute. I will not spend more money to get them in HD, so yeah its a choice, but not as easy as you make it seem
The point is you can get the channels. All you have to do is subscribe to a package that includes the channels.
If an AT 200 subscriber was constantly complaining about not being able to get National Geographic, National Geographic Wild and History International we would offer the same solution. Subscribe to a package that includes the channels you want.
Actually I am right now, just signed up with a bundle through Verizon Fios, Dish is canceled as of tomorrow, YIPPEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!
I keep seeing posts alluding to the loss of the Disney owned channels in the Absolute package. I have Dish America Gold and we've had the SD and HD Disney, Disney XD, and ABC Family channels since September 2008. When the dispute began and the HD channels were pulled, we lost the SD versions of those channels as well.
While I do have kids and they watched a few shows on those channels, we don't miss those channels tremendously. But to be totally honest, I do resent the HD package increases between 2009 and 2010 (from $48/mo to $68/mo currently) and the loss of channels promoted as part of the package from the very beginning. In this economy, we're about to downgrade because we cannot keep paying what we are for television. It's just not that important.
Yeah... I didn't think (or know) I was missing anything, until the grandkids came for Thanksgiving.... I was getting 4 HD kids channels (Toon, Cartoon, Disney, and ABC Fam)... now I get ONE (Toon)... not enough to keep the kids happy. Thank God for Netflix! At least as a Absolute customer I'm not paying anymore than I was 2 years ago, and actually getting a few more (better) HD channels. Still irritating when kids are here... it was a "lifetime guarantee" when I signed up for them!
The problem with that philosophy is two fold. #1 the vast majority of current subscribers are a quiet majority and even though they may show no outrage they do indeed notice and an unhappy sub could become a gone sub. #2 and more important, potential new subs will look at the offerings of Dish and its competitors and make their choice accordingly. I find it a logical assumption that families with children will choose the provider that offers these missing (from Dish) channels.
Cartoon Network is in HD too, you just don't get it because you're on Absolute.
Were this site, is just a sample of Dish users, as is Satguys, people come here to complain and complain loudly, over anything and everything. Over these channels the complaints, aren't even a blip on the radar.
More people, myself included, have complained, in the past about what kind of HD bandwidth waste the channels in question are, more than people have come here to complain about the channels being just SD nowadays. People with families will want the channels, and since nobody offers a HD only package anymore, those people will see the ABC/Disney channels included in the packages they are looking at.
In my house I hate to watch any non HD channels if the HD channel is available. When we first got HD I "caught" my kids watching the SD version of Disney Channel (back when the HD version was available). I had walked into the room and noticed immediately on our 50 inch plasma that it was SD (It's a sickness). I asked, "Is this the HD channel?" The reply was no and when I told them they should be watching the HD version they said they didn't like the HD channel because they put the big black bars on the side. I found out they do the same thing for other channels like Nick and Toon because they don't like the black bars on the side. This may be part of the reason that the demand isn't there.
And that is the reason some programmers use stretch-o-vision to fill every corner of the 16x9 screen with an image. "People want it."
Fortunately there is a SD version so the stretch does not have to be viewed, although these kids would rather stretch SD to fill the screen than watch a higher bit rate proportional image? They have chosen their distortion.
is Cartoon different then Toon? I have young kids so Toon seems to have older kids/adult cartoons only. Plus I like how the early morning Disney stuff only had ads at the beginning of their programs
I see Disney East, Disney West, Disney XD, Boomerang (old school cartoons, like Flintstones and Jetsons), Cartoon Network, Cartoon West, and Nicktoons.
Disney's what my kids are usually watching in the morning, mostly because it's ad-free (except for upcoming specials and DVDs). Cartoon Network does tend to be 'older' in the mornings (say 6-10 years old), and Disney XD tends to skew 10 year old boy.
When Disney switches over to afternoon programming, it's usually Nick Jr in my house, even though there's more advertising than I'd like.
Granted that this site and sat guys represents a very small percentage of Dish subs keep in mind that the viewer to poster ratio on these sites is pretty big.
Since almost every TV sold today is HD I think more and more subs are sensitive to getting HD for their new HD TV, even if it's only off air. I think both Dish and "D" offer free HD for life now.
Is there any reason to even have any SD channels at this point in time? Not just Disney but any channel. Why not make everything HD?
Is it a marketing thing? However the sat providers are giving away free HD.
Or is there a problem with older receivers & DVRs being compatible? IOW they cannot receive HD signals, even if they output only SD.
Why punish the elderly and those who can't afford HD?