Distant Networks: Leahy's Legislation (11/16/06)

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    jhamps10

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    I don't know why this isn't front page news here!
     
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    kf4omc

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    Ok.. I read the bill but what about RV waviers???
     
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    boylehome

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    This is hopeful news. We need a real satellite viewer act. the current one is to NAB slanted.
     
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    Greg Bimson

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    This new one is also slanted. If you are able to receive local into local service, you do not qualify for distant network service.
     
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    Greg Bimson

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    Remember...

    The Senate must pass the bill;
    The House of Representatives must pass the same bill; and,
    The President must sign it into law.

    The House is out until early December. The injunction will take effect before this even has a chance to become law.
     
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    boylehome

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    Then this is where they need to add HD DNS if HD LiL is unavailable to any market.
     
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    jhamps10

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    Actually you are partally right, you can't get them if the dma has all 4 networks, but if there is a market w/o all 4 big networks, then they can get the locals in their area, as well as the distant to cover the other networks. no offense greg, but IMO it looks to me that this is the way it should be. Let me guess you have dns and live in an LIL area don't ya???? TWO letters is the big complaint here. PQ!!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!
     
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    Greg Bimson

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    Never had distant networks in my life.
     
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    ChoralScholar

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    Can someone explain exactly HOW this widens the SV guidelines? I thought they could already provide SV neighboring locals?

    I live in Harrison, AR with Springfield, MO locals. The county ten miles to the south resides in both Springfield and Little Rock DMAs. I would sure like to get Little Rock locals as well.
     
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    James Long

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    Leahy Leads Bipartisan Effort To Protect Rural Consumers From Losing Satellite TV Service Options

    Direct link to the announcement on the senator's website:
    http://leahy.senate.gov/press/200611/111606a.html

    I don't see a bill number yet ... Always looking for the precise legal language! :)
     
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    terfmop

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    As it was worded in the article it sounds very fair to those of us that don't have all of the major networks in our DMA.
     
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    FTA Michael

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    Dish's press release:

    "Today, Senators Leahy, Allard, Inouye, Snowe, Rockefeller, Byrd, Salazar, Clinton, Roberts, Pryor, Enzi, and Ensign stood up for American consumers by introducing S. 4067, the 'Satellite Consumer Protection Act of 2006.'

    EchoStar commends this tremendous bipartisan effort to enable innocent consumers to continue to receive distant network channels, particularly subscribers who live in rural areas and markets where there is no local broadcaster. Unfortunately, because of a court ruling that requires EchoStar to stop transmitting these signals by December 1, 2006 and the imminent adjournment of Congress, it appears that innocent consumers will lose their network signals before Congress can act on this important legislation."

    Source: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=68854&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=932396&highlight=
     
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    BobS

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    Much ado about almost nothing. Leave aside the fact that nobody has read the bill (if it exists) and that there is no practical way this gets done this year. Just reading the blurb:


    1. No license for RV
    2. No license for truckers
    3. No change in SV (as now E* could offer, but they don't)
    4. DNS with LIL requires substantial $ from Charlie to affiliate (not likely)
    5. No grandfathers
    6. It helps the unserved in that footdragging on LIL won't be an impediment for DNS. (Lafayette, IN; Presque Isle, ME, Parkersburg, WV, etc.)
    7. It hurts everyone else in that footdragging on LIL won't be an impediment for DNS. 210 DMA's will be done by 2210....

    It would help if everybody would consider what the reality (vs expectations) is. You are setting yourselves up for another disappointment.
     
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    BobS

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    However OTA and Contour B and ILLR and waivers and... are replaced by cold, hard cash. Not that Charlie would part with any.
     
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    BobS

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    Really where? If you read the bill it either mentioned RV waivers or it didn't. Which was it?
     
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    It doesn't. Some people are going bonkers without the slightest bit of hard information. But if it makes them happy.....

    I think the bigger story is how the Constitution was magically changed so that the Senate can do this all by itself.
     
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    James Long

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    The text of S.4067 has not yet been received from GPO

    Bills are generally sent to the Library of Congress from the Government Printing Office a day or two after they are introduced on the floor of the House or Senate. Delays can occur when there are a large number of bills to prepare or when a very large bill has to be printed.

    http://thomas.loc.gov/ for S.4067​
    It is probably best not to speculate about the exact legal language of the bill and exactly what is and isn't permitted until the bill itself can be read.
     
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    James Long

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    Unless the Senate agreed to adjourn today, the house will be in session on Friday. They will all be back in December anyways ... too late to prevent a shutoff but still time to do some work before the end of the year.
     
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