Distant Networks: STELA reauth, DNS and LiL

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by slice1900, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

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    Just to be clear. Dtv isn’t the one ending grandfathering in on dns feeds. That’s your congressman.
     
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  2. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    True. The non-grandfathered customers who will be losing out of market stations in about two weeks can blame AT&T|DIRECTV, but decades of grandfathering out of market as an option or addition to in market networks is coming to an end.
     
  3. cpalmer2k

    cpalmer2k New Member

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    I just signed up for a streaming provider account "moved" to NYC. It actually was a win for me. Now I get all the NY local channels vs just the Big 4. I considered "moving" DTV, but the advantage is now I get my real locals plus the DNS channels. A "Move" would eliminate the real locals. Plus there is no guarantee they won't switch to spot beams in the future, and even if they don't AT&T has made it clear satellite isn't in their long term plans so ultimately we would need a better solution anyway.
     
  4. GordonGekko

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    Wait, you now get all of the NY locals but you don't get the Los Angeles ones correct? Which streaming provider? Don't you need a VPN to hide your IP or switch your IP to accomplish this? Where are you located, your real locals could be had with an OTA antenna, not certain what you accomplished.
     
  5. hancox

    hancox Godfather

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    Depending on the provider, your "move" will likely be undone at the first location service lookup.
     
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  6. tuncer

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    Can someone PM me how this "move" is done? I'm gonna be out of locals soon.
     
  7. MikeP

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    Oh, I understand the law completely. I've been following it here. Yeah, and my a-hole congressman got elected by voter fraud and ballot harvesting in Orange County, CA. The only reason I've stayed all these years was DNS. There's no reason to stay. DIRECTV isn't what it used to be. Their customer service is pathetic, and my bill has become ridiculously expensive.
     
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  8. BrucePadgett

    BrucePadgett AllStar

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    A few days left until those DNS are gone—any hope left?
     
  9. Gary Toma

    Gary Toma UNIX

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    It is a very sad situation but the writing has been on the wall for over four years. We are all very sorry.
     
  10. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    I guess these DNS deals will be like all carriage deals and wait until the last minute (or maybe a little after) to get finished.

    Those who are following this remember this Fox deal and others that may follow will only help out people with RV, boat and other "mobile" accounts. Everyone else getting DNS channels is going to lose them on June 1st and would have no matter what Directv did, because Congress changed the law.
     
  11. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    It will be interesting to see the details. The article is a little confused - mentioning the only way AT&T could keep distants was via individual deals but acknowledging later in the article that offering distants in the final markets would also have kept distants (except grandfathered classes). The article also seems to include "tailgaters" as a protected class (it is the RV that qualifies a customer for distants). And apparently AT&T believes they are delivering distants to oil rigs (per the article). The protected class of having a local in market but not being able to receive it ended a long time ago - only grandfathered customers are hanging on.

    Hopefully there will be a press release or other official word stating what this means to whom. I expect it will cover RV/commercial vehicle and short markets.
     
  12. bobinraymoremo

    bobinraymoremo New Member

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    Helps me out as a full-time RVer
     
  13. GordonGekko

    GordonGekko Active Member

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    I know this is not likely but any chance a computer error for some of the people who are grandfathered non-RV DNS subscribers, can we hope Directv has our DNS listed as RV by accident, shhh, if it happens to you and you get lucky, don't call in, don't post about it.
     
  14. cpalmer2k

    cpalmer2k New Member

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    Most likely not, but there could be a few exceptions. In my case my bill always said "Network Package- Mobile East" so they clearly knew I was an RV customer. It will be interesting to see what the terms are though, and how this is going to work. Will the older RV customers who got East & West Coast DNS still get both coasts, or just the one where their registration is? Will those of us who only got one East or West because of the way DirecTV chose to enforce STELAR now get both if we ask, or are we still stuck with just one? Personally I'd pay extra just to get the East & West coast stations. Since the law is now out of the equation and it is strictly between DirecTV and the networks it should be up to them to set the ground rules now for who gets what.
     
  15. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Directv should care whether you get both coasts or not, it will be up to the language in the contract whether that's allowed or you only are only allowed one. I can't think of any particular reason why the network should care since the big 4 stations in both LA & NYC are O&O, but maybe they could have their reasons and if they insist on language only allowing one there's no way Directv would fight them on it when they just want to get deals done.
     
  16. cpalmer2k

    cpalmer2k New Member

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    Judging by the fact that DirecTV now has Spotbeam versions of WABC and the DC CW affiliate I'd say it is unlikely at this point they're going to reach a deal with those channels, but that could change of course. I guess that answers our "Movers" question too though. Clearly they're planning on eliminating that possibility.
     
  17. I WANT MORE

    I WANT MORE CowboySooner

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    I am a "mover".
    I am able to receive WABC on 396 but on 7 I get a 771 error.
     
  18. GordonGekko

    GordonGekko Active Member

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    They have sent letters to grandfathered DNS subscribers as well, any word on anyone else able to get the $20 per month discount good for 24 months?
     
  19. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    They could have eliminated the "movers" at any time, by having people getting their locals from NYC or LA DMAs get them via spot beam, and only let people allowed to get true DNS channels to receive the nationals.

    I suspect a lot of the "movers" are close to NYC or LA but just outside that DMA who feel they really should be getting those channels, not people three states away.
     

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