Distant Networks: STELA reauth, DNS and LiL

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by slice1900, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. cpalmer2k

    cpalmer2k New Member

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    Is there a message on the channel, or an INFO channel like the one shown above?
    I'm also seeing the Important Information -9 channels for CBS East, DC CW, and the West Coast Fox on 399. I'm not seeing "Important Information" channels for NBC East or ABC East though. I'd be curious to know what those on the west coast are seeing?

    Maybe they reached a deal with NBC & ABC? Also, the 399 one seems unusual since we know they reached a deal with FOX. Maybe everybody will be East Coast Fox DNS now?

    I'm on an RV waiver, so it will be interesting to see what is left in the morning as I'm not affected by the "grandfathering" provision.
     
  2. cpalmer2k

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    This is posted at TV Channel Updates for AT&T & DIRECTV TV Services

    An update on your DIRECTV service

    As of June 1, 2020, a new change in the law means select DIRECTV customers living in certain communities can no longer access ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC or CW as they have before.

    Until recently, the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act Reauthorization (STELAR) Act allowed satellite companies like DIRECTV to provide certain out-of-market broadcast network stations, typically from New York or Los Angeles. Unfortunately, Congress decided not to renew key portions of this law, over the objections of AT&T, consumer groups, and others.

    To see if you’re impacted, enter your zip code below.

    This change in law affects only certain customers, including long haul truckers and recreational vehicles, who have unique service plans. DIRECTV has already entered into agreements with CBS, NBC and FOX to retain some affected customers’ access to national network content and continues to work with ABC and CW to try to minimize any further disruptions. Some customers who had previously received out-of-market broadcast network stations, in addition to their local affiliates of ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and CW, will no longer have access to these out-of-market stations. However, they will still be able to view their local stations.
     
  3. inkahauts

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    A lot of chars they back off and follow with just the helicopters so the driver will slow down and be more careful then just swam him when he stops. For non violent offenders at least. I’ve seen them do it with a few violent ones too.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    I will say twitter and other forms are not as good as tv or live radio for warning on things like this because they move so quickly from one area to another. And yes you can tell sometimes people clearly know about the chase when it goes through their area.

    I believe any image on a screen that a driver can see with ease and moves beyond a certain refresh rate is legal everywhere. It is in California for sure.
     
  5. slice1900

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    We know they reached a deal with Fox, but not necessarily for both east and west. I would think they would want either both coasts available or all the networks to come from one coast. Having a mix where some DNS channels come from the east coast and some from the west doesn't seem like it would work out too well.

    Since the big 4 stations in those two markets are all O&O I wouldn't think they'd need to reach separate deals to carry the Fox stations in NYC and LA. So if they are showing the -9 slate for the Fox station in LA it would seem to point to them carrying only the east coast stations for DNS in the future.
     
  6. dpstang

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    Well this sucks, 20 some years of having the east and west coast feeds. Any alternatives, I live close to Canada.
     
  7. HoTat2

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    Still receiving the big 4 on CONUS beam tps. here in the L.A. market. ....

    Mapped into the local channel range of the guide and the 390s as usual ...



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  8. bjlc

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    how do I get an RV waiver ? is it hard to get? i live on the boarder of the Mississippi river. half the town is east of the river , half is west of the river. .per se' . also I have always been listed as NO LOCALS.. ever.. and still I never got any notification.. NONE..
     
  9. GordonGekko

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    If you want to, let us agree to disagree, if you want to get the last word in that is fine, just know I never meant to get personal with you, good luck and hopefully we can move on to the DNS situation, stay safe and take care.
     
  10. JiminToga

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    "DIRECTV has already entered into agreements with CBS, NBC and FOX to retain some affected customers’ access to national network content"
    My camp has NBC (DNS-NYC and LA) up in Northern NY where there is a low power NBC in Watertown. Funny thing is Spectrum in Watertown carries NBC from Syracuse as well as the Watertown NBC. Hopefully, I'll keep my NBC because I'm no where anywhere near antenna range for NBC Watertown. I think there might be an exception for me since the NBC is low power?
     
  11. JiminToga

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    I looked at my bill and it's still on there. And I never received a letter from Directv about anything relating to losing DNS.
     
  12. FussyBob

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    I live in northeastern PA. My DNS (E/W coasts) ABC, CBS, NBC were turned off. I still get FOX E/W.

    I just switched packages because my current Xtra Classic package had no locals, went to the Xtra package which had 15 more channels and locals and is $9 cheaper than my old package with DNS charges. I would say the picture quality of the locals is about 95% of what I got rom NY and LA. My STARz and Sports Pack stayed intact with my package switch. I'm ok with the DNS loss but would be nice to have them back as I will miss the entertaining NY and LA 11PM news.

    The only flaw right now is the my local PBS station on DTV is very herky-jerky video. It could just be a current transmission issue, any NE PA people here that can confirm this?
     
  13. JiminToga

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    ACCOUNT ACTIVITY
    Billing Period: 05/22/20 to 06/21/20
    Payments
    Previous Balance -$63.05
    Payment received on 05/02/20 - Master Card -7.68
    BALANCE -70.73
    DIRECTV Channels
    1. TOTAL CHOICE-no locals 91.99
    2. Network: NBC 3.50
    3. Regional Sports Fee 9.99
    SUBTOTAL 105.48
     
  14. JiminToga

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    Yes the nearest NBC was in Syracuse which is about 100 miles away. The low power NBC in Watertown that is now on is about 35 miles from me, but I cant even get a whiff of it on my rooftop antenna. As I said, Spectrum in Watertown which covers most of the area is still carrying both Syracuse and Watertown NBC....so I'm thinking maybe because the cable is carrying out of market maybe they (Directv) can as well up here. Watertown is about 63 miles from Syracuse btw..and Watertown has a full slate of affiliates (if you include the low power NBC).
     
  15. GordonGekko

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    Just putting the word out, if the veterans here and the moderators think it is best we all keep quiet, to anyone who are getting some of the channels still, feel free to delete the posts, not sure if that ultimately would ever matter, if Directv is keeping some on, I assume it is not a mistake and there is some way they are able to do this, again, I'll let the veterans here decide what is best.
     
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  16. Lord Vader

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    My CBS channels (390 & 391) and ABC channels (396 & 397) disappeared early this evening. The NBC and FOX channels are still present.
     
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    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    The TV Channel Updates for AT&T & DIRECTV TV Services is a good place to start.
    I put in a few zip codes to see what was said.

    My market had ABC as a DNS a long time ago and may have some grandfathered subscribers:
    DNS Grandfathered.png

    Alpena has no Local into Local service:
    DNS Alpena.png

    Lafayette once had only a CBS affiliate (now all are covered as sub channels):
    DNS Lafayette.png

    These may give a hint as to what will remain.
     
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    GordonGekko

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    Very helpful, does anyone know the reasons behind the split, why for certain areas, CBS/ABC gone but NBC/FOX remain, this does not even match what the STELAR sunset bill was ordering, very odd. Or more accurately it does not match what was lost with the sunset of the STELAR bill, anyway no matter where anyone lives, I don't see how two networks could still remain but I hope it does remain for those that still can get 2 out of 4 DNS feeds.
     
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    Lord Vader

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    I'm guessing, James, that it doesn't even matter if one has waivers (remember those) from each of the 4 O&O network stations.
     
  20. Jun 1, 2020 #380 of 732
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    Does DIRECTV carry the Watertown market? If so, they should have WVNC (unless there is a carriage dispute).

    I am surprised that Alpena Michigan is getting Fox. Affiliate WBKB transmits Fox (along with CBS and ABC) in the Alpena market. There is no NBC affiliate in Alpena - which would allow for the feed from NBC (supported by a side deal, not the DNS law). CBS is the primary feed on WBKB which may be why Fox allows their national signal and CBS doesn't.
     

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