Distant Networks: STELA reauth, DNS and LiL

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  1. Jun 1, 2020 #381 of 732
    James Long

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    Waivers are part of grandfathering and the old law. I doubt if anyone gained distants due to the reported side deals with CBS, Fox and NBC.

    I noticed that the wording of the message for Alpena is "FOX remains available on channels 398 or 399 and NBC remains available on channels 392 and 393" (emphasis added). Perhaps Fox is only allowing one feed based on time zone?
     
  2. Jun 1, 2020 #382 of 732
    GordonGekko

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    But to everyone who has been reading every page of this Stelar law and its demise, was it not only the RV type accounts that might be able to keep them, if NBC/Fox are being allowed in some house accounts, something must have changed, FOX/NBC have crafted some sort of unique agreement with ATT/Directv, right?
     
  3. Jun 1, 2020 #383 of 732
    James Long

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    Under the law (which required DIRECTV to offer locals in all markets to keep DNS) RV/Commercial Vehicles could keep DNS and residents in short markets (markets missing an affiliate) could keep DNS (for that affiliate). All grandfathering was lost (people who got distants under previous versions of the law who would not qualify to add distants today).

    Under the side deal for CBS, NBC and FOX it appears they have crafted something similar without the requirement to offer locals in the final 12 markets. I have not typed zip codes for every short market into the website, but it appears the short markets are getting NBC and FOX if there is not a local affiliate. I am not sure about CBS.

    Under the DNS law the short market distants cannot be from an earlier time zone than the local channels in market. Under the side deals I don't believe that legal prohibition applies. It would be up to the agreement what stations could be provided where.


    I'd like to hear from people in short markets on both coasts and from RV/commercial vehicle users before I make further guesses as to what the side agreements allow.
     
  4. Jun 1, 2020 #384 of 732
    GordonGekko

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    Not only happening in short markets.
     
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    cpalmer2k

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    My billing statement says "Network Package- Mobile East" typically on an RV waiver. As of this morning all is well, no interruptions. They must've struck a deal late in the game for RV/Truckers at least.
     
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    Swanni

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    JiminToga

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    So does this mean that the distants will be reinstated?
     
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    Swanni

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    AT&T won't say exactly who will get them and who won't. But if Fox was still there last night, you probably will also be able to keep NBC, CBS and Fox.
     
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    Robert Auger

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    Is your Off the air
     
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    Swanni

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    This was their stance for the Fox announcement as well. They wouldn't say if residential customers would get the Fox out-of-market channel after the law changed. But last night, Fox was still there, as was NBC for some.
     
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    JiminToga

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    Was mentioning earlier our cable company carries the low power NBC and the Syracuse NBC (still)...so I'm thinking that's a precedent to keep the NBC I get for DNS. The only NBC locally is the low-power one and it's way too far for an antenna. They offer it on the Directv locals package (which I dont subscribe to), but I think there are exceptions for low-power affiliates?
     
  12. Jun 1, 2020 #392 of 732
    JiminToga

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    I haven't checked but nothing in my bill reflects a refund nor did I ever get a letter from Directv about losing the DNS channels (in my case NBC)
     
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    Lord Vader

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    Anyone know whom we can contact at DirecTV to get back the CBS channels, now that an agreement has been reached? IIRC, there used to be an Email address one can write regarding DNS feeds.
     
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    James Long

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    Please clarify.
     
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    James Long

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    Per the website refunds could take a couple of billing cycles.
     
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    lamplight

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    RV user here, and as of right now, nothing has changed for me.

    I'm not sure what the important data is. I've had DNS since 2003, grandfathered with both east and west coast feeds, and I pay a separate amount for a PBS feed. Service address is in a large Texas city, and I'm currently in a Colorado city. I'm using the original satellite dish and an old receiver, getting SD signal on satellite 101. As of right now, I have everything I had before: CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, and CW, all with both east and west coast feeds, as well as the one PBS feed I pay for separately.
     
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    James Long

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    Thank you. I am assuming they have your account flagged as an RV account, which makes the service address less relevant. I am surprised that you have ABC since that has not been mentioned on their website.

    Attached is the results for Glendive Montana, a market with a CBS and NBC affiliate but no ABC or FOX affiliate. ABC, CBS and NBC are no longer carried (FOX is carried). DNS Glendive.png
     
  18. Jun 1, 2020 #398 of 732
    FussyBob

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    I still have FOX E/W, WITH ABC, CBS, NBC gone. My account now has a credit of $2.45 for each ABC, CBS, NBC DNS network that I lost yesterday. No credit issued for FOX. I now have my locals including the local FOX.
     
  19. Jun 1, 2020 #399 of 732
    JiminToga

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    Has anybody else on here seen a credit to their account? I haven't checked my channels but I checked my account activity and no credit in the activity was noted. I'm thinking I still may have my NBC DNS.
     
  20. Jun 1, 2020 #400 of 732
    GordonGekko

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    Since the cat is already out of the bag, check Fussy Bob's post and a few others, here is the ultimate question to those who retain Fox or both Fox/NBC, I don't believe this is a Directv oversight, if they turn off and credit one or two other networks, they would easily see the others, so it seems to me that Fox/NBC did something in their agreements, gave Directv more latitude to keep the $3.50 per month charges for each of those other two networks, that is my hope, seems logical right now.
     

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