Do people really like panoramic doors (and other design features)?

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  1. SledgeHammer

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    I've been looking at new homes in my area (So Cal) and every builder seems to be doing panoramic doors these days. Is it just me or are they super impractical?

    1) you get a full wall of glass... UV damages interior stuff (furniture, floors, plastics, etc.)
    2) gotta find a window covering for a full wall of glass
    3) seems like a pain if you are regularly going to go out to the back yard to open the huge door
    4) cleaning headache
    5) limits furniture placement (basically creates a dead useless wall)
    6) lighting issue if the panoramic door is where your TV is
    7) am I really ever going to open a full wall of glass to let all the critters in my house?
    8) expensive to repair? if they leak or something like that?
    9) the houses here are tract homes with small lots... I'd be looking at a brick wall... lovely view :D. I might re-think it if I had a view of the beach or a lake or something like that

    Builder would probably think I'm crazy lol, but I'd probably opt for a "panoramic door delete" and tell them to close it up and put a standard double window on this half of the wall and a true divided light French door on this half. A 2 + 2 x 1/2 side panels or even 2 + 2 x full side panels seems a lot more practical to me.

    Am I crazy? :D

    Panoramic doors seem like the latest design gimmick to me... when I built my current house in 2002, the gimmicks were rounded drywall corners and niches. Nobody likes those now and people drywall over the niches. I have a media niche and I don't like it now because it limits my TV size to 55" :(. Plus I had to get an expensive custom built cabinet.

    My house has rounded drywall corners... they look nice, I noticed no builder does that anymore... but I have basic standard base molding, so they do 2 angled pieces to get it to fit right. I think if I had more substantial moldings and/or crown, rounded corners would look silly.
     
  2. P Smith

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    that would be selling point for me also
     
  3. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    nope, I've same thinking
     
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  4. P Smith

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    ummm, the glass should be IR and UV resistant/coated IMO
     
  5. SledgeHammer

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    I have plantation shutters in my current house and I keep them mostly closed, still, the white plastic trim on my recessed lights has yellowed where the lights are exposed to sunlight.
     
  6. billsharpe

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    We have had a big sliding glass door in our family room to our back porch for 30 years now. There's also another regular door to the back porch from the kitchen. We have curtains but usually leave them open in the daytime. No noticeable fading on any furniture or flooring. And we're in sunny southern California! Sun hits the TV in the room early in the morning so we pull one curtain if we're watching the morning news.
     
  7. SledgeHammer

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    The sliding door is the whole wall? *Shrug* I've asked a few people offline too and nobody seems to think they're practical.

    Oh well, I looked at the house on Google Sat View and the roof lines are literally 2 ft apart which is crazy even for So Cal. It's like a 2400 sq ft house on a sub 3000 lot. Plus its a court yard home, 4 homes share a drive way. For 1.3M? I think I'll pass...

    I guess I'll have to suck it up and get a used house lol... I dunno… every one I see on Zillow, etc, you pretty much have to gut because there are a lot of Chinese people in my area it seems and they deck the houses in a Chinese style.
     
  8. billsharpe

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    It's not the whole wall -- door only takes up 8 feet of an 18-foot wide room. Nice backyard view with three big pine trees. Yes, Southern Cal prices are high but we're only eight blocks from the ocean. And we didn't pay a ridiculous price for the house 45 years ago. Sliding door opens four feet. No problem with furniture in front of other four feet. The previous house we lived in -- 12 blocks from the beach -- had double doors opening from breakfast room to back porch.
     
  9. SledgeHammer

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    Oh... that's a normal sized door imo. French door would be 2 standard doors + 2 1/2 side panels = 96 inches.

    Think something more like this:

    4 Bd Vacation Condo Oceanside | Beachfront Only Vacation Rentals

    That's what every build is putting in now a days.

    Yeah, if I had that view, maybe :D, but in So Cal (orange county), the view is your brick wall or fence or whatever.
     
  10. James Long

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    My parents house had a large front window, about the size of a double patio door wide but it started two feet above the floor. For the first decade they lived in the house they had a couch in front of that window (and a beagle doing a Snoopy impersonation laying on the top of the back of the couch looking out the window). There were other large windows in the room. The house was built in 1908, so big windows meant you could see without candles or gas lights. We had electricity when we lived there. It seemed natural to have the window for light but block it with a couch to provide seating.

    My father in law's house has a large sunroom with all exterior walls being large windows side by side. Very nice ... But he has a yard to look at. The sunroom can be divided from the living room by a four panel sliding glass wall. Probably 30 ft wide. It allows the sunlight to pass through from the sunroom at all times. The house also has several skylights. Most days they do not use electric lights dawn to dusk in the living, kitchen and sunrooms.

    It works, and I would buy a similar house.
     
  11. Mark Holtz

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    My home is a little bit different in that it is a single story home shaped like a U. From the living room to the back yard, there is both a single AND double French door next to each other. One of the previous homeowner's wife was disabled, so that was some unique customization including a Jacuzzi that is much deeper than usual.
     
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  12. inkahauts

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    I like them, as long as the room is designed right so you have plenty of space for other things in the other walls. I have a much bigger issue with people putting fireplaces on the center of walls in the rooms where TVs would go making tv placement a pain and over the fireplace the best place which is actually the worst place most the time.

    What areas are you looking at for homes?

    A friend has a house with one of those and the entire doors slide into the wall which is the outside wall for the next room. It’s great for gatherings and such because the patio is also just outside so makes the room basically extend into the patio and into the back yard. It’s all about design... the good part is in that house there isn’t anything else you’d out on that wall anyway, tv is on the perpendicular wall and couch is floating across from it and serves as the divider to the kitchen area. Big rooms so it works well.
     
  13. SledgeHammer

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    Yeah, the fireplace in the middle of a TV wall definitely sucks. I'm with you on that. I'm in Irvine right now. Slim picking on new houses unless you want to go out into the hills or way out to the 261.

    The 4 "walls" of the living room... one was the panoramic door, the other was the TV wall, the other side was the kitchen and the 4th side was the living room.

    So if it was me, I'd put the TV on the TV wall and a 2 or 3 seater between it and the dining area and a 2 or 3 seater where the panoramic door would be. I could put it along the kitchen "wall" I suppose (which would be opposite the panoramic door), but that seems cramped and a waste of a good wall.

    My current house has a similar layout except I have a wall + French door where the panoramic door would go.
     
  14. Rich

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    Yup, we have two fireplaces, both in living rooms, both in the middle of walls. Makes placing TVs in those rooms difficult. Neither fireplace has been used for years. I talked to a contractor about demolishing the fireplaces and that would really be expensive.

    Rich
     
  15. phrelin

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    No, you're not crazy. New construction in Southern California per code automatically comes with "Low E glass" which blocks UV and IR light in certain amounts while allowing visible light to shine into your house even if you don't want that light. And those windows are not going to block damaging rays 100%. Contrary to a lot of misinformation, that amount of glass is energy inefficient compared to walls.

    Since the cost of homes in Southern California is high, go after what you want not what's in fashion this week.
     
  16. SledgeHammer

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    You nailed it. It's the thing that's in fashion this week. Like niches were in the 2000's. Other thing that's hot in my area right now is the ultra modern exteriors. All boxy, multiple colors, etc. Ugggggllly…. Can't beat a classic (and timeless) Spanish style house. Stucco, terracotta tile roof, etc. Those ugly ultra modern exteriors will be impossible to sell in a few years.
     
  17. billsharpe

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    We have a living room with a fireplace in the middle of the long wall. There's a TV set in one corner of the room easily visible from the sofa across from the fireplace. Putting a TV on the wall above the mantle is out of the question -- we'd strain our necks watching it. Most watching is done in the family room where the TV is located below a high window with blinds.
     

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