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Does any one like the HR21?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Sea bass, Dec 13, 2007.

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  1. spoonman

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    I agree. And once I have the CW in HD from DirecTV I will move it in to the living room so it matches everything else that is black in that room. :)
     
  2. Packersrule

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    I own a Replay, Sony and Media center's DVR. The HR2X is a great DVR. I like it much better now that I have the 30 sec skip.
     
  3. rotohead

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    Other than the lack of DLB and OTA input, I"m very happy with mine. Simpler record features, pip on the guide and a few other minor features along with all the HD programming...I'm jumping for joy....
     
  4. Bista-Buster

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    I have tried both receivers and I won't get another one. I was told that the HR20-21 was much better and more advanced than the HR10-250 DirecTiVo is and that I'll love it.

    Well, that was a lie after I checked both of them, feature to feature they both have. The HR20 is lacking in functionality that the TiVo does better. I won't post it here but if you want my observation as to the problems it has, talk to me first.

    Before I bought this machine, I tried asking some detailed information to get the real deal about it. I got nothing. This is the kind of stuff you need to know.

    Just PM me and I'll give you accurate information to what I found about it then you can make an informed decision whether you want it or not.:lol:
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

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    Considering that there are often people comming here to do the comparison..
    Why can't you just post and share the things you think the HR20 is lacking, that the HR10-250 has... and what you don't like about it.
     
  6. shocky

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    I was a Tivo SD owner for as long as I can remember Tivo existing.. Has to be atleast 4-5 years now.

    I wanted to upgrade to HD service but Tivo HD wasn't an option for me. The local cable compay simply has no content.. and content is king.. SciFi HD for me.. Thus I switched to DirecTV.

    The HR21 has been nothing but a disappointment thus far. The unit has COMPLETELY locked up on me 5 times in 2 months. My Tivo units (multiple) never skipped a beat. The HR21 has 'cancelled' recordings in the middle of the showing for no reason.

    The HR21 has a serious latency issue. You can be in the middle of watching a recorded program, hit fast forward to go through the commercial and the unit will hang for up to minute (had to wait almost 5 minutes once) before springing back to life. This happens in almost every function of the unit, and happens semi-frequently (I'de say maybe 1-2 times per day.).
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

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    I was in the same boat before migrating from the DirecTV Tivobox to the HR20 and HR21 series DVRs.
    I had pretty much had the opposite experience.

    My Tivobox repeated failed, and actually got serviced 3 times in 3 years - only to have something new fail. My HR20 and now HR21 DVR's have performed quite well.

    This is also an apples to refrigerators comparison, as the HR21's have been available (with very new firmware) for a short time, whereas the Tivobox was out for years.

    I could write a book about all the Tivobox firmware problems and limitations, in fact, the limitations are what prompted the sub-culture TivoForums.
    Like any other electronic device, you may have a defective unit or environmental issue causing those unfortunate problems. I have been a CE tester on both the HR20 and HR21 series, and with the exception of the expected hiccups that come with updated and beta firmware, they have both been very solid now for quite some time.

    I would be so bold as to say I have not missed my Tivobox for over a year now one minute, and would hate to go back to those days of reboot, reboot, reboot.

    There are certainly people who like different things, and there are clearly loyal folks who love their Tivo. I am not one of them. That doesn't make one right or wrong, just different.

    In the context of this thread, and considering all the major delays and other problems Tivo is having launching with Comcast, I wouldn't be so fast to think Tivo is above all other DVR's. Less than a year ago, Tivo was close to folding up shop, had Comcast not come to the rescue with their contract and seed money.

    In the mean time, and in response to the original post - I am pleased with my HR21 and also where DirecTV is taking us in terms of the future with these units (which is of equal importance).
     
  8. Maruuk

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    Had various Tivo units for 6 years, nary a glitch, perfect with features like :30 skip and a dedicated slo-mo which made using it a dream.

    Now with my HR21 I get all kinds of nasty audio and video glitches, no :30 skip, no slo-mo button, and a truly terrible program guide that frequently gives me "No Information" for stations the same day as the programming. With Tivo I had 2 weeks look-ahead on every station. DTV is a joke now.

    This is the worst product I have bought in many years. It's going back. A true piece of cheap, toxic-toy Chinese garbage!
     
  9. hdtvfan0001

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    That's how my wife felt about the Tivobox. Different strokes.
     
  10. Maruuk

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    Well there were many manufacturers under the Tivo license. You must have got the bad one. From my 7-year experience and everyone else I know who had and has one, they are light years ahead of the DTV build quality and software design.
     
  11. Bike Effects

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    I would like to see this as well. As a long time happy owner of an HR10-250 I was pleasantly surprised how good the HR21-700 was. I did have an initial failure of my HR21, and had two early failures of my HR10-250.
     
  12. Doug Brott

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    If Slo-Mo is your thing, well I've got nothing, but as for :30 skip .. well, hold that thought ;).
     
  13. Doug Brott

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    I agree with Earl. If you have a horror story or other information that you think is worthy enough to answer multiple times via PM, post it here.

    Oh, and one feature the HR10-250 doesn't have that makes it a non-starter for many .. it can't receive the new HD channels from DIRECTV. It will make a great SD receiver and a good OTA HD receiver, but it will not get the HD channels from DIRECTV. That feature alone make the HR20/21 series the winner in my book.
     
  14. Stuart Sweet

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    I must disagree with Doug in this way...

    I think there's a lot more to like about the HR2x besides "It can get channels that HR10 can't."

    Honestly there are going to be features on any two things you compare that don't match up. However, in my experience the HR20/21 are hands down better, with a better feature list, a more mature user interface and a more consistent experience when compared with other DIRECTV receivers. Add to that a nice, modern look and I can't complain. For those who claim reliability issues, I don't doubt your experiences, but they differ from mine.
     
  15. Maruuk

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    Well for sure we're stuck with the HR2X series for now. Since my 21 crashed and burned they're sending me a 20. I'm trying to be optimistic about avoiding audio glitches in the new unit and since I'm in a no-locals zone, the OTA is critical.
     
  16. Doug Brott

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    There is certainly an audio issue these days that needs some correcting. This usually occurs when you are caught up to Live TV. In these cases, if you hit {REPLAY} either once or twice and continue just slightly behind Live TV, then the glitches go away.
     
  17. blakevh

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    I have had all DirecTivo boxes for years so it is a little jarring to move to the HR21, but overall the HR21 has performed well for me with no problems.

    I do wish it had OTA.
     
  18. islesfan

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    I like the 21, and it works well as the backup for the 20. Today, for example, when I had an IKD bug on my HR20, I just watched the Isles game on my HR21.
     
  19. Matt9876

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    Setup on the new HR21s is real smooth also like the slick black look of the case.:)
     
  20. Maruuk

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    I take it back, DTV is not playing ball. They've gone back into denial: no HR20's, no Mr. Nice Guy. Apparently the replacement scenario is all BS.
     
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