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Does DirecTV (and Dish for that matter) have some responsibility to flex their muscles with CBS???

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Milkman, Aug 21, 2013.

  1. Church AV Guy

    Church AV Guy Godfather

    Jul 9, 2007
    I suppose the argument would go something like this. CBS has had a contract with Time Warner, and the negotiations for a follow-on contract have failed within the time allowed in the previous contract. That allowed CBS to cut off access to all Time Warner customers. You might not be paying Time Warner for cable TV, but you ARE a Time Warner customer, if only for internet service. CBS blocking access to Time Warner would then include you as a Time Warner customer.

    Legal jargon can be used to let a legal action drag on for years and years.

    Launch a second class-action suite against CBS and see what happens.
  2. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    But you don't PAY for CBS streaming content. There is no contract with and ISP or cable provider for it.
  3. JosephB

    JosephB Icon

    Nov 14, 2005
    Birmingham, AL
    Actually there is no argument. CBS puts their content online out of the goodness of their own pocketbooks. They have no obligation under any agreements with anyone to do so, continue access, deny access, whatever. They can take stuff down whenever they want.

    An easy solution, if they viewed it as an actual problem, would be to put TV Everywhere authentication in front of it. Then, you could auth as a DirecTV customer and get access (surprised they didn't go down that road anyway)
  4. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Yes, that's been suggested a number of times.
  5. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

    Feb 14, 2013
    This isn't net neutrality, that concerns the actions of an ISP only. CBS could decide to block the entire state of Texas from cbs.com if they wanted to, and it wouldn't violate net neutrality. No one pays CBS for cbs.com, they can offer it or not offer it to whoever they like, and could close the website down tomorrow if they wished and no one would have any recourse.

    This would be a violation of net neutrality if Time Warner had blocked access to cbs.com. That wouldn't make a lot of sense, but say for instance Time Warner got a big payoff from Microsoft to push Skype (which Microsoft owns) Thus they blocked access to competing VOIP applications. With net neutrality in place, they cannot do this. Without net neutrality, they would be perfectly within their rights to do that. If your ISP had a contract with Skype, and mine had a contract with Vonage, then we couldn't call each other. It is easy to see why ISPs don't like net neutrality - they'll have Microsoft, Google and everyone else offering to pay them to block competing services. It is also easy to see why consumers might end up losing if net neutrality is dropped, especially in areas where they have few or no competing broadband alternatives.
  6. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    I missed it, when did a net neutrality law go into place?

    And again, no one pays for CBS online, they give it away for free as they please, NO ONE has any recourse for it saying they pay for it because they don't.

    Just another reason that autentication for all online services make more and more sense. The big problem for someone like CBS is they are giving away this content for free usually, just as their channel can be picked up for free.

    Sent from my iPad using DBSTalk mobile app
  7. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

    Feb 14, 2013
    Net neutrality, in the absence of any laws, is determined by the FCC. Based on the rules it has enacted (which the opposition hates and supporters think don't go far enough) it has been acting to stop what it views as clear violations of net neutrality. So something like Amazon paying ISPs to block access to Netflix would be stopped by the FCC, but making deals where a company pays an ISP to 'encourage' use of its services without handicapping competitors won't be prevented.


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