First, let me say that I am neither a mathmetician or a scientist. With that said, I am going to offer that the value, or non-value often expressed as "zero" or "0" does not exist. I have intuitively believed this for a long time. I have asked others about this -- most just look at me in an odd way. I once posed the question in a neighborhood bar. It went around the bar causing quite a stir among both regulars and strangers. By the time it got back to me, beer orders had dropped 17% and the barkeep asked me to leave. I have found no evidence to the contrary that zero exists, not even in integers divisible by 10, where the symbol "0" functions merely as a place holder. Sure, on an X,Y axis, or an X,Y,Z axis, the intersect identified as "0" represents a point in time or space, but this still does not mean that it exists or has value. Is zero less than nine? Of course, but then nothing is less than something unless something is on sale and drastically reduced. I am not asserting that zero has no implications, just that it has no mathetical value whatsoever -- except as a symbolic space holder. 1,000,000 or 1,- - -,- - - or 1,xxx, xxx. You decide.