Doesn't Charlie understand that MLB is our nation's pastime?

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  1. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member

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    You're wrong on a lot of stuff. Look here: http://www.sportsmediawatch.net/2010/07/halftime-top-50-sporting-events-on.html

    The Drafts 1st day only had 4.6 which was it's highest. So how'd they average 5.3?? :rolleyes:
    The following games beat out the draft, but remember these are all on cable like the Draft....
    NBA Second Round: Cavaliers/Celtics Game 6
    NBA West Finals: Suns/Lakers Game 5
    NBA West Finals: Lakers/Suns Game 3
    NBA East Finals: Magic/Celtics Game 4
    NBA West Finals: Lakers/Suns Game
    NBA East Finals: Magic/Celtics Game 6
     
  2. GrumpyBear

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    You need to find a better site:lol:. ESPN had a OFFICIAL 5.47 for day 1 first round, and add in the NFL Networks rating of .95 the NFL draft. Day one had a high of 6.42.

    Still don't even get your entire point:nono:, you have to go deep into the NBA playoffs, and having nothing to do with the games that were played vs head to head competition vs the NFL draft that had a 2.1 and a 3.0 ratings:rolleyes::nono2:. Like I said you have to get to the finals, as you nicely show before a NBA playoff game out preforms the NFL Draft day. The Vast majority of the 1st and 2nd round NBA playoff games had horrible ratings for a Playoff game.

    Granted the entire point was the early NBA playoff rounds failed miserably vs the NFL Draft TV coverage overall, and in a direct Head to Head, the NFL had a 2 to 1 advantage in ratings point, when you consider Kobe's Lakers game had a rating of 3.0 and the NFL Draft was over 6.0 with viewers watching the exact same event with different coverage on two different networks. The three day event combined still had a better rating than the TBS and TNT had of 2.7 rating avg for the entire early rounds.

    We can snipe as much as we want, as whats really funny though, is how the MLB finishs lower than all the rest for the most part.
     
  3. brucegrr

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    Cincinnati and Cleveland.

    My personal opinion is that if I am in a local market and subject to blackout rules then the channel should be a part of the channels I normally receive. I shouldn't have to pay extra. This is not a MLB issue. This is a Dish issue. I am 2 hours closer to Detroit than I am Cincinnati. In fact I am closer to Chicago than I am Cincinnati.
     
  4. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

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    But if your location is correct, you're in the Toledo DMA, and in the blackout zone for the Reds, Indians and Tigers. FSN Detroit is limited to the geographic zone of Michigan.

    http://www.dishnetwork.com/SupportSection/rsn-maps
     
  5. brucegrr

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    I live in far NW Ohio.I am in the Detroit mkt. That's why ESPN blacked me out on Thursday. (tigers vs.Yankees) only time I can see the tigers is on the sports time Ohio channel when the tigers play the Indians.

    Directv and Time Warner give customers in this area Detroit.
     
  6. Zero327

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    Our nation needs a new pastime.
     
  7. STEELERSRULE

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    There is a way for people to get/try MLB.TV, which is MUCH CHEAPER than the MLB Extra Innings route.

    You will need AT LEAST an average of 6Mbps download speed. I know the web site say 3.0Mbps is enough, but trust me, having the extra bandwidth will be important to avoid rebuffering. Also, if you have at least 6Mbps download, don't multitask and drain it.

    Second, go to Best Buy and buy a ROKU player for $80+tax. KEEP THE RECEIPT AND THE BOX!!! You will have a 30 day window to return it.

    Sign up/activate your ROKU player, get the latest firmware, and if possible(STRONGLY RECOMMENDED IMHO) have the ROKU box hardwired to your router, or at least, a Belkin 1000Mbps Powerline adapter. But have it harwired.

    Next, sign up for 1 month of MLB.TV($20). Get all the games except those that are considered your local teams due to your zip code, or ISP provider. The picture quality, IMHO, is pretty good on most, and really good with the HD feed.

    Your mileage may vary. If you don't like it, return the ROKU for a full refund, and drop MLB.TV. At the most you will be out $20, and some of your time, but then you will know.
     
  8. purtman

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    The reason the NBA had good ratings was Boston versus LA. That's about it. The NBA means "Not Basketball Anymore". I can't watch a game. I just want Charlie to wake up.
     
  9. SayWhat?

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    Charley's awake.

    Are you?
     
  10. talk000

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    Back on topic, MLB.TV is a good, maybe better, alternative to EI. I had EI while it was on Dish, but went to MLB.TV when Dish dropped EI. It gives you the choice of home or away feeds, radio announcer overlays for audio, carries all games, archives games, has split screens, and other extras not on EI . It also cost less - $100 or $120 depending on the version you subscribe to. You can hook it to your TV via a laptop, ethernet cable if connection available on your TV, a Roku box (when and if they get their bugs worked out), or many people have game consoles that work with it. I would start off paying monthly if unsure and just try it out.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    Personal preferences aside (I can't stand to watch baseball myself)... the truth is that overall average ratings are lower for MLB than several other major pro sports.

    There are exceptions... in markets like Boston or NY where strong MLB teams have a strong following... but once you extrapolate across the country the national interest for all teams... MLB has more teams dragging down the attendance and ratings such that they end up ranking lower compared to NFL and NBA over the course of the whole season for all teams involved.

    I'm sure the Yankees get better attendance and ratings than the Cleveland Cavaliers or the Jacksonville Jaguars... but those are isolated comparisons that don't reflect the greater leagues as a collective whole.
     
  12. STEELERSRULE

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    I thought I could recommend this way as a cheap way for people to get the MLB fix,but I can't.

    MLB.TV is just AWFUL on any device. Whether it is a ROKU, PS3, or even your computer, it is terrible, and not worth even the $100-$125 they are asking for a years worth of service.

    Don't anyone bother. Either with the yearly route, or monthly route.

    And by the way, the problem with the streaming is not the fault of the ORKU, or PS3, or your computer.

    MLB.TV, and it's greed, are to blame for this. They put out a cruddy product,a nd they know it, and still continue to deliver crap. Between breakups, streams not working, or just a God awful "HD Picture" mind you, this product is not ready for primetime.

    Just avoid it at all costs until some pioneers out there declare it is OK. Because as of right now, MLB.TV is just garbage, plain and simple.

    And I "hope" the NFL and sports leagues are seeing what MLB, once again leading the way in greed and ineptitude so that the other leagues can have the bugs fixed and deliver a superior product, watch this and learn by 2012, when hopefully, the NFL Network, and or Sunday Ticket, will be able to be streamed to customers using a computer/ROKU/PS3/Blu-ray player/etc... and paid for upfront.
     
  13. brucegrr

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    I agree on Mlb.tv

    I have 2 Roku boxes.

    Tried it last year, tried it this year. Cancelled both times

    Better than SD but no where near HD. (and some times no better than Youtube)

    The problem is on the MLB end. I have a 15mb connection and everything else streams just fine. Only with MLB do I have problems with quality.

    As far as Dish and Baseball. Last year I usually had one game a week in SD. So far 2 games the first week in SD and one tonight is JIP.

    I hate this but I know all the bi***ing in the world isn't going to change it. It is a priority and capacity issue.
     
  14. purtman

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    Yes, but only until I put an NBA game on.
    The NBA's quality has dropped off significantly, and rules are are optional:
    1. Players shuffle their feet all the time without a travel call
    2. Ever notice how many times a play hangs on the rim without a technical foul called? I'm not talking about the legit ones where a player is trying to avoid injury.
    3. Alan Iverson was considered an all-star, but he only shot 42 percent for his career. That's pathetic.
    4. The "hop step" is a travel but is never called.
    5. Players routinely carry the ball, but it's never called.
    6. the NBA is the only league where players care more about the show than they do about winning. On a two-on-none fast break, how often do you see the alley-oop pass thrown to create a spectacular dunk rather than focusing on making the basket? Too often. It's like having an shortstop standing under a popup and then diving to make the catch rather than just making a routine catch. It's kind of like a wide receiver standing still until the ball is almost out of his reach and then running so that he can dive to make the catch.
    Enough said.
     
  15. sigma1914

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    Would you like a list of baseball's negatives in recent years? Here's one...Steroids. Enough said.
     
  16. ehren

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    I have MLB.TV and today with my high speed internet I watched 3 games in HD via Roku, Iphone and Boxee simultaneously. And I can still have Dishnetwork for my programming and local RSN.
     
  17. tommiet

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    Plus my dish bill could drop about 25-30%.
     
  18. txtommy

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    Ball players are in the entertainment business and as such are little different than actors on a TV series. I would much prefer to subsidize a talented ballplayer than most of the talentless actors in many TV series'. Does anyone who thinks that ballplayers are overpaid really think that tv actors are fairly paid? Is Alex Rodriguez overpaid while Charlie Sheen is fairly paid? Bottom line is we already pay too much in our mainstream packages for these lightly talented individuals.
     
  19. sigma1914

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    I never thought about it like that. Very interesting. :)
     
  20. SayWhat?

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    The problem with that thuinking is that there are only a small handful of 'overpaid' actors in any TV season. Maybe 20 or 30. A TV season lasts 13 episodes or so. Any given network/channel may have one or two hit shows where the cast have big contracts.

    How many ball players on how many teams have multi-million dollar contracts during a season? How many team owners take home additional millions? ESPN carries at least some baseball, football, basketball, golf, hockey, racing and who knows what else that all have multiple millionaire players.

    If I could cut off even $5/mo by dropping ESPN, I'd do so in a heartbeat.
     

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