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"Don't touch my junk!"

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. durl

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    "Profiling" may be an ugly word, but why is that? People don't want to be segmented based upon characteristics? Big deal. We're looking for terrorists, not potential employees.

    When looking for a suspect, good detective work involves profiling. You gather clues, build a profile, and focus on that profile. In cases of terrorism aboard airliners lately that have sparked this intense level of screening, there is ONE characteristic that ALL terrorists have in common, but we're afraid to act upon that single, common denominator because someone might feel "uncomfortable."

    I'd rather a few people be upset for being "profiled" than to have some stranger put their hand on my preschool daughter's crotch.
     
  2. sigma1914

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    What's that ONE characteristic?
     
  3. armophob

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    I will give you several.
    shifty eyes, short, long thin mustache, hatred of squirrel and moose, and a partner named Natasha.
     
  4. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

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    :lol:

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  5. SayWhat?

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    Whatsamatter U ?
     
  6. armophob

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    Great job!! you got em'

    Now lets just get back to flying and stop this crazy thing.

    I guess I kind of morphed the John Waters long thin creepy mustache in there somehow.
     
  7. fluffybear

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  8. armophob

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    How about a caucasian man with a German dialect who keeps mumbling something about McClain killed his brother? Should we profile him?
     
  9. Davenlr

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    El Al (Israel Air) has a perfect security record, and does just what you say is profiling. It it not profiling when you screen EVERY passenger, while they are waiting it line to get their tickets and boarding passes. You just walk down the line, talk to everyone. Someone acts contrary to normal, you pull them aside and grope away.

    Besides, any terrorist could mold C4 into a penis, jump a little when the TSA agent touched it, and that would be the end of that plane.

    Bomb sniffing dogs and El Al type preticket screenings are the ticket here. The TSA is just to fricken lazy to train and pay for good investigators to screen the passengers. Its easier to buy a multimillion dollar machine, and pay some dimwad minimum wage to feel up passengers.
     
  10. armophob

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    Fun is fun. But the profile of a terrorist is someone who is mentally imbalanced enough to sacrifice their own life for a hardened belief. Find me a scanner for that person. The guy who smiles as he drips Lysol in your drink at the bar because you mentioned you are Buddist. Or the mother of 2 who feeds the kids Drano because Jesus said to.

    Those who board planes with the intent to kill everyone have got the bases covered and nothing we do to attempt to stop them will help short of stopping airline travel.

    Check your guns and swords at the door, the rest is up to the public on the planes.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    That analogy was so bad people will think *I* posted it! :)

    It really is a bad analogy, though... because the Airport actually is imposing these rules upon itself... It's not the same as the government imposing rules on your home. It's more like the government helping to enforce rules YOU want to impose in your own home on visitors.

    Like... I can require people entering my home to leave their shoes at the door. I can have people removed if they will not leave my home without complying.

    BUT...

    Your example actually is already happening anyway... You can't do electrical work in your home without an inspection. This is to protect future owners IF you decide to sell your home and have done sub-standard work that might cause a fire or something and not be part of the original plans for the home.

    You also can't just knock down a wall and add another room to your home without obtaining a building permit, approval of the new design, and having those changes inspected.

    And if you live in an apartment or townhome where you share a common wall... there are limitations on what you can do that might affect the other person on the other side of that wall.

    I live in a development that has a HOA that further restricts what I can do in many cases to my own home... so there's another layer that has nothing to do with safety and often very little to do with property values either.

    Long before there were indoor smoking bans, they started banning smoking on planes. Was this an intrusion on freedoms? Technically, yes.
     
  12. The Merg

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    Believe me. I'm all for profiling as long as it is done correctly.

    - Merg
     
  13. SayWhat?

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    http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/19/2454162/airline-security-gets-private.html
     
  14. durl

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    TSA is doing all of these new procedures because young, radical Muslim men have attempted to blow up planes by hiding explosives in shoes and underwear.

    El Al's style of security would do quite well at finding those people. But remember, TSA is not looking for PEOPLE (the main point), they're looking for weapons.
     
  15. sigma1914

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    I'm still waiting on the "ONE characteristic that ALL terrorists have in common" that can be used to profile.
     
  16. SayWhat?

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    Well, they're all human.




    So far. (I'm waiting for the dogs packed with explosives. Or birds since they're so good at dive bombing.)
     
  17. armophob

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    And very angry. Lets profile the angry people at the airport.
     
  18. James Long

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    Like the ones that don't want their junk touched?
     
  19. JM Anthony

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    I'm not overjoyed with the new procedures, but I'm happy to see airport security improved. I'm convinced we'll continue to refine the processes and tools over time.

    John
     
  20. SayWhat?

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    I'll be curious to see what kind of ClusterF*** this week turns into at the airports with all the holiday travelers.
     

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