"Don't touch my junk!"

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 7, 2005
    Kittrell, NC
    I wouldn't expect anything different than last year... or the year before that... and so on.
  2. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Kansas City KS
    I wonder how long it will be before they start strip searches and body cavity searches , all in the name of "security" ?
  3. Nick

    Nick Charter Gold Club Member DBSTalk Club

    Apr 23, 2002
    Amazing how much the American public will put up with in their insatiable quest for the unattainable -- absolute security.
  4. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
  5. smiddy

    smiddy Tain't ogre til its ogre

    Apr 5, 2006
    I travel almost every week, and have been searched, I have no issues...I am surprised the change in protocol however.
  6. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

    Apr 17, 2003
    So ...

    When to the "NO VIDEO/AUDIO RECORDING AT CHECKPOINT" rules go into effect?
  7. Chris Blount

    Chris Blount Creator of DBSTalk Staff Member Administrator DBSTalk Gold Club

    Jun 22, 2001
    I was thinking the same thing.
  8. Lee L

    Lee L Hall Of Fame

    Aug 15, 2002
    My guess is that the Terrorists know that by launching a half-donkeyed attempt at something every couple of years they can make us expend literally billions of dollars a year fighting it. If one of them actually works, hey, a bonus, but they would rather us spend ourselves into oblivion (which IIRC, was part of what Reagan was doing to the Soviets at the end of the Cold War), all while taking away the liberty that actually makes this country what it is.

    As far as cameras go, frankly I am surprised it is not banned already. They ban all cell phone use completely in Customs lines already, so there is a precedent.
  9. durl

    durl Hall Of Fame

    Mar 27, 2003
    I wasn't saying that ALL terrorists have ONE thing in common. I was saying the procedures now in place by the TSA are the result of terrorists attempting to destroy airliners. THOSE terrorists have ONE major thing in common:

    Underwear Bomber - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Farouk_Abdulmutallab

    Shoe Bomber - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Reid_(shoe_bomber)

    Attempted to use liquid explosives - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_transatlantic_aircraft_plot
  10. Cholly

    Cholly Old Guys Rule!

    Mar 22, 2004
    I don't travel by air as much as I used to - down to one or two trips a year at most. That being said, I'd have no problem with the scans if they're safe. I'm not that modest.:lol:
  11. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004
  12. 4HiMarks

    4HiMarks Hall Of Fame

    Jan 21, 2004
    Laurel, MD
    I don't have a problem with "security", as long as it actually makes us more secure. But all this "security theater" is total BS. Liquids? Really? Is the TSA getting kickbacks from Aquafina, DeerPark, and Dasani? I guess they didn't get offered enough by Hanes and Fruit of the Loom to ban underwear. Just as it has been said that "The Generals are always fighting the last [previous] war," so the TSA is catching the last terrorist.

    See http://www.schneier.com/ for the viewpoint of a security expert.
    "...assuming that the radiation in a backscatter X-ray is about a hundredth the dose of a dental X-ray, we find that a backscatter X-ray increases the odds of dying from cancer by about 16 ten millionths of one percent. That suggests that for every billion passengers screened with backscatter radiation, about 16 will die from cancer as a result.

    Given that there will be 600 million airplane passengers per year, that makes the machines deadlier than the terrorists."

    For the "drive if you don't like it" crowd:

    "... roughly 130 inconvenienced travelers died every three months as a result of additional traffic fatalities brought on by substituting ground transit for air transit. That's the equivalent of four fully-loaded Boeing 737s crashing each year."

    "Exactly two things have made airline travel safer since 9/11:
    reinforcement of cockpit doors, and passengers who now know that they
    may have to fight back. Everything else -- Secure Flight and Trusted
    Traveler included -- is security theater. We would all be a lot safer
    if, instead, we implemented enhanced baggage security -- both ensuring
    that a passenger's bags don't fly unless he does, and explosives
    screening for all baggage -- as well as background checks and
    increased screening for airport employees.

    "Then we could take all the money we save and apply it to intelligence,
    investigation and emergency response. These are security measures that
    pay dividends regardless of what the terrorists are planning next,
    whether it's the movie plot threat of the moment, or something
    entirely different."
  13. djlong

    djlong Hall Of Fame

    Jul 8, 2002
    New Hampshire
    My thoughts on all this Security Theater.

    Number of terrorists caught by passengers: 2. Number caught by TSA: 0. Number caught by increased intelligence (CIA, FBI, et al): Numerous.

    Required education level for a DEA agent: Bachelor's degree.
    Required education level for a TSA agent: None. Unions successfully eliminated a HS diploma or GED requirement.

    It makes you wish for the ability to have national referendums.
  14. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    The terrorists have spoken on this issue;

    The AQAP magazine details the "total bill of 4,200" dollars for Operation Hemorrhage, adding that it was three months in the planning and execution.

    "On the other hand this... will without a doubt cost America and other Western countries billions of dollars in new security measures. This is what we call leverage.
  15. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    And so has 3 year old Mandy.

    Never let a stranger touch you in your special place Mandy, unless of course you are going to get on a plane, then anyone in a uniform can touch you anywhere they want.
  16. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

    Feb 12, 2009
    NY Hudson...
    The best, or in this case, the worst story I have hear so far, is a security person in doing a vigorous pat down busted an attached bladder bag.
  17. armophob

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    I was just getting to that one here.

    Not quite as disturbing as the kid story, but showing just as much as distain for the flying public.
  18. MysteryMan

    MysteryMan Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    May 17, 2010
    That was on CNN this morning. The poor guy informed the "Mucky Muck" of his medical condition to no avail. The rough pat down partially opened the seal on his bladder bag spilling his urine on his clothing!
  19. scooper

    scooper Hall Of Fame

    Apr 22, 2002
    Kansas City KS
    You mean this poor guy ? -
  20. Supramom2000

    Supramom2000 In Loving Memory of Onyx-2/23/09

    Jun 20, 2007
    Colbert, WA
    Don't forget the flight attendant who had to remove her prosthetic breast.

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