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"Don't touch my junk!"

Discussion in 'The OT' started by Chris Blount, Nov 15, 2010.

  1. Nov 17, 2010 #81 of 282
    djlong

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    Yeah, we complained about the lack of security when there was none - despite there being metal detectors in the airports.

    Remember, 9/11 was executed by people who depended on security ignoring the existing safeguards. Those box-cutters should have been confiscated and perhaps the 'passengers' arrested. But we had brain-dead mental midgets manning the controls.

    So now the answer is to go all-out and do EVERYTHING whether or not it's actually effective?

    Again, the TSA has caught NOBODY. Terrorists have been caught by local police, the FBI and other agencies but NOT ONE has been caught by the TSA.

    Remember - the TSA says you don't have to have so much as a high-school diploma to work for them (union challenges to the proposed rules in 2001 defeated a clause that would have required a diploma or GED).

    Remember - PASSENGERS have caught an infinite percentage more terrorists that TSA personell (the score is Passengers: 2, TSA: 0)

    And now Janet Napolitano says "take a train"? How, exactly, was I supposed to do that for my recent trip to Europe? So now you say I have a choice between becoming someone's porn collection or being molested if I want to visit my aunt in San Diego (I live in NH) and want to take less than 4 days getting there (and 4 days coming back).

    How is it that Israel, which is still bordered by countries that are in a state of war with it, doesn't have this kind of Theater and yet still El-Al has a near perfect record?

    Why is it that, if my municipality or state has an unpopular law or regulation, I can redress the local government via referendum - I don't have to recall the legislator and risk throwing the baby out with the bathwater? Why can't we have national referendums?

    Why is it that "it's for your security" has become some sort of magic phrase that makes people immune to having to actually show results?

    [And, for the record, my duaghters are, as I write this, in the air somewhere over the Atlantic or Carribean on their way to Guatemala for a wedding - should they have driven there?]
     
  2. Nov 17, 2010 #82 of 282
    Chris Blount

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    I do and they did.
     
  3. Nov 17, 2010 #83 of 282
    Stewart Vernon

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    Not saying I agree... but I did throw out a point that no one bit on...

    Part of these measures are an attempt at security for security sake.

    BUT

    Another part is to prove due diligence and ward off lawsuits.

    People will sue the airline and the government if another incident occurs. They already sued over 911. Some even outright accused then-President Bush of "allowing" those attacks to happen.

    Unfortunately, too many in this country operate out of fear of litigation even moreso than fear of terrorism.
     
  4. Nov 18, 2010 #84 of 282
    SayWhat?

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    They still make ships don't they?
     
  5. Nov 18, 2010 #85 of 282
    redfiver

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    profiling at TSA checkpoints, with the current structure, is ineffective. They need higher quality folks working the stations to start profiling. And profiling is more than just looking at the color of someone's skin or the nature of their dress. How many people think a Sikh is a Muslim because they wear a turban? Visual profiling really isn't enough to determine a threat and it could threaten the rights as Americans we so rightfully try to protect.

    Security checkpoints at airports are an attempt at appeasing the American public. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but making folks only carry 3oz of liquids on a plane (and as many of those that can be put into a 1 qt plastic bag) is not real security. put enough people on that same plane, some result happens, enough liquid explosive to do what you want. But, just blowing up a plane isn't enough these days. The ante has been up'd. It's about destroying targets not just blowing up planes. If anything, 9/11 taught us that. I'd really like to be able to bring a bottle of water on the plane without having to spend $4 for it at the airport. It's a bit silly.
     
  6. Nov 18, 2010 #86 of 282
    hdtvfan0001

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    The only thing that came to mind when I first heard about this is....what kind of job skills/experience would someone put on their resume after leaving TSA....? :D
     
  7. Nov 18, 2010 #87 of 282
    Nick

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    The...
    Caption Contest

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    [ ] "Sir, I've detected a rather large bulge in your trousers. Please step behind
    the panel and disrobe for an enhanced security rubdown, er... pat down."

    [ ] "Sir, I don't like this any more than (not then) you do."

    [ ] "Sir, is that a banana in your trousers, or are you just glad to see me?"

    Choose one

    Photo courtesy of The Denver Post

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  8. Nov 18, 2010 #88 of 282
    SayWhat?

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    Rumor has it the IRS is pleased to be replaced as the Government's most hated agency.
     
  9. Nov 18, 2010 #89 of 282
    hdtvfan0001

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    Thanks to Nick for answering my previous post question. :D:lol:
     
  10. Nov 18, 2010 #90 of 282
    scooper

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    ROFL !!!!!
     
  11. Nov 18, 2010 #91 of 282
    Chris Blount

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    James Long

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    :joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:
     
  13. Nov 18, 2010 #93 of 282
    armophob

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    dpeters11

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    This 35 year old LOL'd at that one.

    But seriously, what's the big difference? If they have to follow TSA guidelines, that includes the scanners and enhanced patdowns. Instead of a TSA agent giving you a patdown, it's a guy with Wackenhut. Though I haven't checked if they are one of the approved ones, just the first one with a funny name that is in the security field.
     
  15. Nov 18, 2010 #95 of 282
    hdtvfan0001

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    !rolling

    ...apparently not... :D
     
  16. Nov 18, 2010 #96 of 282
    Chris Blount

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    Note the key word "Guideline". That is the difference. The TSA maybe carrying the guidelines too far right now.
     
  17. Nov 18, 2010 #97 of 282
    MysteryMan

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    I agree. Guidelines allow for variance. Implementing procedures would have been better.
     
  18. Nov 18, 2010 #98 of 282
    hdtvfan0001

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    I've noticed no one has yet asked to be checked more than once... :D
     
  19. Nov 18, 2010 #99 of 282
    SayWhat?

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    Nuh-Uh, Ain't no Wackenhutter handlin' no junk.
     
  20. Nick

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    Fingerhut securiy would be more appropriate.
     

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