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Downloading 0x0290 6:15pm Oct 21

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by EricRobins, Oct 21, 2008.

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  1. Oct 22, 2008 #981 of 1123
    stewie123

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    Yep, my HR-21p was locked up when I got home tonight as well.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2008 #982 of 1123
    russdog

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    If you have a friend who is clever with linux, call him. In the meantime, don't use that external HDD. Just use the internal HDD until everything settles down.

    In all likelihood, the files are still there on the external HDD, and what got clobbered were the tables of data that keeps track of what's where on the HDD. So, it's not so much a matter of getting back files that were really erased, but rather rebuilding the tables that keep track of them. Depending on how clueful you are, computer-wise, you can perhaps google around and find utilities for free that will help with this. But it's a linux matter, not a windows matter, so *don't* try to fool with the HDD using a computer that's running windows.
     
  3. Oct 22, 2008 #983 of 1123
    Tom Robertson

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    It would take someone who is VERY good with LInux--these are proprietary disk structures for holding DIRECTV video streams. In other words, if we can't get the HR2x to recognize it, its almost certainly gone.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  4. Oct 22, 2008 #984 of 1123
    HereticPB

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    Mine was locked up when I got home and then a couple minutes later after a RBR while browsing DOD was asked if I wanted to do an update. Normal?
     
  5. Oct 22, 2008 #985 of 1123
    russdog

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    It was my understanding that the internal structure of the files is proprietary, but that's irrelevant to the task at hand.
    This is the first I've heard of D* inventing their own secret structures for organizing independent files on the disk.
    Are you sure? Why on earth would they do that?
    (I don't claim to have any knowledge of D*'s software.)
     
  6. Oct 22, 2008 #986 of 1123
    Tom Robertson

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    Welcome to the forums!

    Generally not normal, but happening to many today. Normally the downloads are during the middle of the nite if your system is quiescent.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  7. Oct 22, 2008 #987 of 1123
    Entr04y

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    both of my units were locked up and unresposive... both of them I could hear the hard drives going flat out. I suspect that whatever happened it caused a huge memory leak and put the box in swap-till-you-die mode....
     
  8. Oct 22, 2008 #988 of 1123
    Nicholsen

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    Dude! Please! No more fanboy posts for the mighty HR2x today

    I programmed for a living once upon a time.

    How about one "update later" means not until I authorize it, or 2 AM, which ever comes first. That was state of the art in 1978.

    This looks like an emergency patch pushed out in a hurry to resolve a bad situation.
     
  9. Oct 22, 2008 #989 of 1123
    ewade

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    the problems arose from the download that occured on the 6th with the download that replaced that one the last time they became unresponsive d sent out a broadcast to reset all irds and download the new software so a red button reset should fix it and give it the new download
     
  10. Oct 22, 2008 #990 of 1123
    Spiky

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    It would be about time that someone starts really tinkering. One huge advantage of Tivo is that the OS is understood, cracked, modded, etc. after years of existence.


    Oh, I must be lucky. I turned it off (when unresponsive earlier) with the normal power button, then on. All seems to be fine, now on x290. So far response time is better in menus. Didn't lose anything I don't think. But it did fail to record more than 8 minutes of a 2 hour scheduled recording this evening.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2008 #991 of 1123
    Tom Robertson

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    One huge disadvantage for TiVo the company was it couldn't protect the copyrights of the content providers.

    Let us not go any farther into the realm of discussion "hacking" the disk structures here at DBStalk. We can talk about copying a whole drive so as to upgrade, but not repairing a drive structure.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  12. Oct 22, 2008 #992 of 1123
    Nicholsen

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    +1
     
  13. Oct 22, 2008 #993 of 1123
    Ed Campbell

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    I think D* should try a different procedure for updates like this - just so we could read some new whines. :)
     
  14. Oct 22, 2008 #994 of 1123
    russdog

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    What I was suggesting has zilch to do with hacking. It had nothing to do with cracking D* files.
    It was 100% about *repairing* file allocation tables so the existing files that are there on the disk can be located by the HR again.
    There is a huge diff between hacking into proprietary files vs. reassembling extant info that's already there on the disk. There is nothing at all "hacking" about repairing that.
    However, if you want the guy to lose everything he's got there, through zero fault of his own, I will stop.
     
  15. Oct 22, 2008 #995 of 1123
    bcavalieri

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    Was so happy to see this thread :), came home during a thunderstorm and thought lightning had taken my receivers out again.

    I just unplugged for a few minutes (red reset didn't work), and all was well.
     
  16. Oct 22, 2008 #996 of 1123
    nmarrion

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    WTF! An update at 10:15pm PT, in Primetime...
    What are these idiots thinking about?
     
  17. Oct 22, 2008 #997 of 1123
    wahooj

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    Mine was locked up. RBRd it. Then right before it was supposed to record SVU it rebooted itself and started downloading. It told me not to interrupt power. So I did, and unplugged the phone line, and smacked it around a little for good measure. It recorded SVU, an hour show, for 1:46, and got SVU the news, and the beginning of Leno. It was still recording but unrepsonsive to the remote or panel and I RBR'd it again. It took some more smackdown for my finger to find the little red button, I am getting progressively more clumsy with each problem tonight. Now it again rebooted itself and is downloading the software. I will let it upgrade this time since I'm not trying to record anything. This is my 2nd HR20, even though this is apparently a software problem I am done, I will see if I can return it for refund and if they will undo my 2 year commitment and put my account on hold until the new Tivo box is out. I think I'm going to go all Internet, maybe AppleTV or something.
    By the way, DirecTV, if you're reading this, your product stinks, your software development teams and QA are total crap, and you just lost a faithful customer and evangelist because Rupert Murdoch was too cheap to let Tivo make some money. And if something spends half the time on a progress bar stuck at 97%, it should say 50% instead. I've spent half the evening watching this POS reboot and 10 minutes is too long, especially when for 5 of it it claims to be 97% finished. That's my rant and I'm sure its one of thousands as there are already 40 pages of complaints in this thread. Good luck everyone, I hardly knew you. Seriously though, everyone return their boxes, RMA them, cancel service, get 6 months of free Shotime, whatever, make DirecTV take a big financial hit every time the screw up to this extent.
     
  18. Oct 22, 2008 #998 of 1123
    Cap'n Jack

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    WTF not only is my HR20 dead.. it took 20 minutes for it to finally reboot, but they downloaded to my HR22 at 7p Pacifit time.. right in the middle of watching and taping shows...
     
  19. Oct 22, 2008 #999 of 1123
    Bobbo

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    HR20 was unresponsive when I got home late tonight. I have an external disk attached and the disk was running frantically, but no other signs of life on the HR20. The red reset button was the only button that responded. I was afraid that I would loose all the shows on the disk, but after re-boot, everything was fine.

    I also have an HR21-100 that is OK
     
  20. Dorv

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    + like 85
     
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