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DPP44 with 3 inputs

Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by intrac, May 9, 2008.

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  1. May 9, 2008 #1 of 12
    intrac

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    Is the Power Inserter required with 3 antenna inputs (119,110, and 61.5) on the DPP44?

    The manual isn't clear on this.

    The receiver is a VIP211.
     
  2. May 9, 2008 #2 of 12
    TulsaOK

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    I would suggest that the power inserter is required no matter how many inputs you have. Otherwise, you're putting the power requirement on the receiver.
     
  3. May 9, 2008 #3 of 12
    garys

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    Power invert is used on port one with a receiver connected.
     
  4. May 9, 2008 #4 of 12
    Ken Green

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    The installation manual for the DPP44 switch is crystal clear.
    From the DISH Manual:

    "DP Plus 44 Switch Features
    Four inputs for use with up to four orbital locations.
    Four outputs for connection to up to four tuner inputs.
    Four "trunk" connections, to "trunk" to another DP Plus 44 Switch.
    DOES require power insertion.
    Can be used indoors or outdoors."


    http://rweb.echostar.com/departmental_content/TechPortal/content/tech/equipment/dish_pro.shtml

    If A/C power is not available, the Power Inserter does not need to be located nearby the DPP44 switch, it can be located behind your ViP211, and the A/C power back-fed through the coax to port 1 on the switch.
     
  5. intrac

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    Thanks for the reply, but you notice that it refers to up to 4 orbital locations.

    If there are 3, is the power inserter still required because the total power needed is lower.

    Also, would it be lower if the LNBs were single and not twin?

    It's only being used with a single receiver and not trunked.
     
  6. James Long

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    The requirement for the power inserter does not go away simply because you are using less than four inputs. The requirement for the power inserter doesn't change based on the number of outputs.

    The DPP44 MAY work without a power inserter ... but it is designed to work with a power inserter. Selling it without a power inserter is a trick to raise the price (as seen often on eBay) ... people selling switches without the power inserter and selling the inserter in a separate auction.

    If it is working for you without the inserter great! But the inserter should be there.
     
  7. intrac

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    OK - thanks for the definitive answer.
     
  8. Gremraf

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    I had a tech tell me last week that, power inserter was not needed on my system, as i have 3 dvr's hooked up and they are providing enough power. Maybe that is why a different tech will be out tomorrow.
     
  9. Ken Green

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    It says:
    "Four inputs for use with up to four orbital locations"

    I really do not understand these discussions. :confused:
    What would be your reason for not using it?
    -DISH includes the Power Inserter with the DPP44 switch.
    -It is very simple to install, and can be physically located most anywhere in the configuration...even outside on the dish antenna mount.
    -The DPP44 installation instructions specifically state it must be used.
    Why wouldn't anyone use it?
     
  10. intrac

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    One reason for not wanting to use it -- it sits there and sucks power!
     
  11. BattleZone

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    True, but, without it, you either aren't going to have any working receivers, you'll have sporadically working receivers, or you'll burn out the power supplies in your receivers often.

    The power inserter is there for a reason. It is needed for proper function.
     
  12. CABill

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    WTH would you think that powering the switch from the receiver wouldn't suck power? Connecting a Watt meter to my receiver shows it consumes more power when connected to a 1000.2 than it does to a SW64 that uses a power inserter. Measure the Watts used by all receivers connected w/o the inserter and repeat with the inserter properly in place and let us know the power you save by exceeding the power the receiver is designed to supply.
     
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