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dropped OTA signals

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by hounddog, Jan 1, 2008.

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  1. bartendress

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    You'd be amazed.

    Austin is located along a pre-historic fault line. To the east of lies coastal plain/savannah... to the west, beautiful, rolling hills... the Texas Hill Country. The first time I came here I expected flat, dry, brush-land ala Dallas... it's actually an oasis.
     
  2. kb7oeb

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    Try the UHF loop instead, the ears are for VHF. I can get most of my locals using the RF remote antenna.
     
  3. hounddog

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    Have you figured out why you have the dropped signals? Would larger antenna help? Thirteen miles is not that far away.
     
  4. bartendress

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    It's case by case. No one solution works for everyone. Bigger is not always better. Pre-amp is not always better. It's all about YOUR use-case....

    Answer me these... :

    **How far are you from your primary (ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS) transmitters?

    **Do you want an indoor or outdoor antenna?

    **Are the transmitters for all stations all in one general direction, or are they spread about around your location?

    **Are you in a subdivision with single story homes?... or an apartment building?... and, if so, what floor?

    **And are there taller structures between you and the transmitters?
     
  5. hounddog

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    I spoke to a very friendly and knowlegeable man at solidsignal.com and have determined, with his help, that I will not only need a very large antenna but also a rotator, as the CBS, ABC, and FOX stations are directly south of me and the NBC station is directly north of me. He also told me that the little wire antenna presently attached to the satellite dish is about $200 and worthless. He also told me that I should not place the OTA antenna anywhere close to the dish. I don't know if my father-in-law will want to rotate the antenna from south to north everytime he wants to watch NBC, but from what solidsignal.com tells me, if he wants a good signal that is the only way to go. And thanks again for all of the great advice.
     
  6. jmeetze

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    You could try an omnidirectional antenna. I don't know why everyone else is having issues with OTA. I have an indoor OTA antenna that isn't amplified and I can pick up sations 20-40 miles away with a 70 - 85% signal. The only time my signal drops off is when the signal strength drops below 65 percent.
     
  7. GrumpyBear

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    A nice Bowtie Omni-directional style Antenna will work.
    I am in the same boat, kind of, as I have San Diego channels SE, and SSE and LA channels to the NW and NNW. Only Station I have any problems with is the Fox channel that is over the border in Mexico. How far away does antennaweb.org say you are away from the 2 different antenna hills? Not discounting the info from soldidsignal, he is correct about the wire on the dish, but as for the 2 styles of antenna's UHF(rececption) and the Sat dish, the only thing you need to make sure of is that the HD Antenna is not, right in the line of site Sat Dish, no matter who you go with.
     
  8. hounddog

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    Maybe that is one of the problems--the OTA antenna is attached to the dish. I will suggest an omnidirectional bowtie antenna. None of the towers is more than 40 miles away, so maybe this will work. Should I use the diplexer that he currently has or should I run a new cable? The man at solidsignal.com told me that with a diplexer one loses about half of the signal compared to running a separate wire. If the smaller bowtie antenna doesn't work, looks like I will be looking into the new Winegard 7600 series antennas, which at 6 feet long for one of the models isn't exactly small.
     
  9. whatchel1

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    I looked on Winegard site & I couldn't find a 7600 series antenna. Where did you get the info I would like to see what you are talking about. BTW diplexors don't really reduce signal anywhere near as much as rhe SS guy said. It has to do with the fact that it is combining to different frequency signals then splitting them back out. I even looked on SS site and all I could find w/ designation of 7600 was an FM trap from Winegard.
     
  10. hounddog

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    He said that they had actually gotten in some of the 7600 series models and that it would only be a matter of a few days until they would be able to sell them. I couldn't find them on Winegard's site either, but the man at solidsignal.com assured me that they were very good and would make good OTA antennas. Before I get one, however, that requires a rotator, I will try an omnidirectional antenna first.
     
  11. bartendress

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    It seems to me your fella at SS may be trying to use your wallet to line his.
     
  12. GrumpyBear

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    Distance wise, you are about the same, less than 55 miles.
    I use the DB4 from Antennas Direct, here are the Dimensions 29" H x 19" W x 4" Deep. Works great, for some of the LA channels I should have upgraded to a DB8, but live and learn. http://www.antennasdirect.com/MR_tv_antennas.html
    Use the Diplexor so you can bring in one cable into the room its nice.
     
  13. whatchel1

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    The DB8 might just do the trick. It seems to be by looking at it an Array that will pickup signals in both directions.
     
  14. GrumpyBear

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    If I was to do it over I would have bought the DB8, the DB4 works, but having just that much more array, wouldn't hurt. Its not that much bigger, I went with the DB4 for size, more than price, and after getting it and setting it up, its smaller than I thought.
     
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