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Dual HD DVR?

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by Mr.72, Dec 16, 2008.

  1. HobbyTalk

    HobbyTalk Hall Of Fame

    Jul 14, 2007
    Uverse has whole house DVR now.
  2. Jason Nipp

    Jason Nipp Analog Geek in a Digital World Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Gold Club DBSTalk Club

    Jun 10, 2004
    I have a HDMI Transceiver set that on one end you input HDMI, it runs to your TV2 location via Cat5e and than converts back into HDMI. I have also seen Gefen market this with fiber. I have run about 150ft using this. I know one person, that has the amplified version and runs it further yet.

    There are a couple companies working on wireless HDMI..... then you have HDMI distribution amps that really don't work as well.

    All these are fairly easy solutions, but they get pricey.
  3. MatthewH12

    MatthewH12 New Member

    Nov 26, 2002
    I hope they come up with a solution too as I just put an HDTV in my bedroom. The "Tech Support" departments answer to how to get HD on both TV's was "Give us $550 for a second HD DVR", I'm like no thanks!

    I'm not even so much worried about HD on the second TV at the moment, as much as I wished the dish could output proper 16x9 to the TV 2 out, but then i have it connected via coax at the moment as I'm not sure how much it would cost to run component cables. (Sadly the way they built this house, the walls are "Capped off" in the attic and basement, so you cant just drop cables you have to drill and all that :()

  4. olguy

    olguy Hall Of Fame

    Jan 9, 2006
    And soon :D
  5. 50+

    50+ Legend

    May 1, 2008
    I have bought my parents a new HDTV. I am not all that familiar with Dish. For the second TV off a 722 can I run The coax for SD on tuner 2 and run component for HD. This woud allow them to watch recorded content off tuner 2. and watch HD content from tuner 1, is this true. I guess what I am asking is will the 722 run content like this.
  6. patmurphey

    patmurphey Godfather

    Dec 21, 2006

    Still requires a second HD receiver. It is, however a logical way to get in house distribution of HD content. Sending ecrypted content over a network to another same company (and account) receiver that can decrypt and play the content would not likely cause any DRM issues. Network access to Dish's EHD content would be an additional way to expand this kind of distribution.
  7. ZBoomer

    ZBoomer Icon

    Feb 21, 2008
    That sounds awesome, what's it called and where can you pick one up? (online)
  8. mhowie

    mhowie Legend

    Sep 30, 2006
    Mmmm...may have to give this a shot. Thanks for the thought-starter!
  9. Sailor Bill

    Sailor Bill New Member

    Mar 1, 2007

    How do you control the DVR when you are watching the remotely located TV? Also, since my theater projecter is already hooked up via component, coould the remote TV be the one via HDMI? It would be about 25' away.
  10. HobbyTalk

    HobbyTalk Hall Of Fame

    Jul 14, 2007
    You can use the RF remote (remote 2) to control TV1.
  11. Scott Spillers

    Scott Spillers AllStar

    Apr 15, 2006
    I've seen a few Cat-5e HD distribution systems online, but have not tried one myself yet. What specific hardware are you using? Does it require one or two Cat-5e drops?
  12. 50+

    50+ Legend

    May 1, 2008
    My mother called Dish today, to get the new 2.0 remote, to work an olevia TV. She was told that they were not available but in Feb or March there would be a recvr to replace her 722 that will have dual HD tuners, this would solve some other problems for here setup. has anyone else heard this.
  13. Jim5506

    Jim5506 Hall Of Fame

    Jun 7, 2004
    "I think what we have here is a failure to communicate."
  14. RasputinAXP

    RasputinAXP Kwisatz Haderach of Cordcuttery

    Jan 23, 2008
    Everything I've seen requires either 1 drop for an HDMI run or 2 drops for component and audio.
  15. BattleZone

    BattleZone Hall Of Fame

    Nov 13, 2007
    The CSR was wrong/confused. The new v21 remote IS available, but is NOT available as a "replacement" for receivers that didn't come with it. It needs to be *purchased* as an "additional" remote. CSRs are trained to stick to their scripts, and most will assume someone calling for a remote needs a "replacement", and the script doesn't allow that (and the customer won't know any better). You want an ADDITIONAL remote.

    And the receiver the CSR was referring to is the 722k, which has no OTA tuner, but accepts the optional $30 tuner module that features 2 OTA tuners. It does NOT have dual HD outputs.
  16. GrumpyBear

    GrumpyBear Hall Of Fame

    Feb 1, 2006
    There is a big difference, between Dual HD Tuners and Dual HD outputs.
    ViP 612/622/722 have Dual Tuners, this can very useful in Single mode, for PiP and DLB viewing. You may want to read about single mode vs Dual mode on the ViP series.
  17. 50+

    50+ Legend

    May 1, 2008
    Thanks IIP. I am not very informed about Dish. They don't need OTA at all, even when they had a 100' tower for OTA, there stations were bad. I don't think they would get anything after the digital conversion. The CSR's do have to follow a script and I'll have her call and ask for an additional remote instead of a replacement and see what she can find out. In another thread they call this a 2.0 remote is it really a v21?

    Grumpybear thanks for the reply also.
    I do undrerstand about the dual tuner aspect. In post #25 I asked if the HDMI and the component would work 2 TVs at the same time with the coax hooked up to tuner 2,not in HD, so they can watch different programs when need be. I am quite sure the D*TV hrxx boxes will work like this just don't know enough about Dish. The tv's they have are no more than 30' apart so it seems like this would work.

  18. grog

    grog Godfather

    Jul 2, 2007
    I have both my VIP622's racked in the basement. So I am doing a dual HD DVR setup.

    I like the wireless method in the post above but for about $50.00 I can run 40 feed of HDMI cable just fine.

    I run HDMI from one of my VIP622's from the basement upstairs using this 40 foot HDMI cable... great stuff..


    I am also using the 50 foot version to feed HDMI from my computer to my 47" LCD.

    Both cables are 22AWG. This is some thick cable!

    For really long feeds
    131FT HDMI to HDMI 24AWG CL2 Rated cable w/ built-in Equalizer (Gold Plated Connectors)

  19. GravelChan

    GravelChan Legend

    Jan 30, 2005
    50+, 21.0 is what you want to ask for.
  20. jacmyoung

    jacmyoung Hall Of Fame

    Sep 8, 2006
    The 24AWG HDMI cables at 50' worked just fine for me, anything thicker did not fit under the baseboard:)

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