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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by dfd, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. Jan 2, 2013 #121 of 150
    Richierich

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    He's been hiding!!! :lol:
     
  2. Jan 2, 2013 #122 of 150
    dfd

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    Recorded SAT content would play but not content recorded via antenna.

    HR20/100 running 0x62c.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2013 #123 of 150
    Rich

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    Never ceases to amaze me how many folks have 20-100s that work.

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  4. Jan 3, 2013 #124 of 150
    Rus

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    Why is the antenna mounted so high? Isn't there another location so it is accessible?
     
  5. Jan 4, 2013 #125 of 150
    dfd

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    I have plenty of places that are accessible but none that are accessible and able to receive a sat signal. If there was an easier place I would have used it.
     
  6. Jan 4, 2013 #126 of 150
    studechip

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    Most of you, especially those that back Directv regardless of the situation, have missed the point of the entire thread. Mike Bertelsen got it, but it took 92 posts before even he mentioned it. The problem isn't the box rebooting, it's that ota doesn't work unless you have a satellite signal. That's stupid, and it's the fault of the software.
     
  7. Jan 4, 2013 #127 of 150
    hdtvfan0001

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    Unless it's designed to operate that way of course.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2013 #128 of 150
    TMan

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    If that's the case, then it is stupid that it is designed that way! Aside from probably making it angry during a reboot, which I'll allow an exception for, an otherwise undisturbed HR34/AM21 combo should carry on happily with antenna channels if it temporarily loses satellite signal. That's a major point of having an AM21 in my opinion.

    The only thing dumber than that would be to require, when an AM21 is connected, the presence of an OTA signal to receive satellite. Oh, your antenna is goofed up? No satellite for you! Or disconnect the AM21. :D
     
  9. Jan 4, 2013 #129 of 150
    hdtvfan0001

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    Software design is often a subjective business (matter of opinion) in terms of right/wrong/good/better/best.

    I'm not saying it was designed that way...only that it was a possibility and if so...would explain the reported behavior.
     
  10. Jan 4, 2013 #130 of 150
    studechip

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    I don't know if it was intentional or not, but earlier hd boxes didn't need a satellite signal to work ota. It started with the Directv branded boxes.
     
  11. Jan 4, 2013 #131 of 150
    hdtvfan0001

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    That was certainly true in the HR20-700's I used to have. Then again...those would now be 6 1/2 year old DVRs.
     
  12. Jan 4, 2013 #132 of 150
    veryoldschool

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    Haven't I already posted that unless it reboots, the OTA/AM21 works fine with the loss of the SAT signal?

    At some point due to the guide data missing, it will want to reboot.

    During boot-up, it needs the SAT signal to verify the account status.
     
  13. Jan 4, 2013 #133 of 150
    hdtvfan0001

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    Obviously I missed that post.

    With a 2-week guide data inventory...it sure makes sense that E.T. would want to phone home for more data.
     
  14. Jan 4, 2013 #134 of 150
    veryoldschool

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    While it was a bummer that the TS got screwed over watching his game in the live buffer and having the DVR reboot, There have to be some limits of the OTA functions, or these "leased" receivers would be used for dual tuner OTA DVRs after a customer dropped their SAT service.

    For times when there are signal problems, we can watch recordings [even after a reboot] and without a reboot, watch OTA. This also will have a timeout but DirecTV did make some changes a few years back after some bad storms and complaints here on the forum.
     
  15. Jan 4, 2013 #135 of 150
    Mike Bertelson

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    This is very likely what is going on. For what ever reason the receiver decided it was time to restart and when it didn't find a signal, right or wrong, it defaulted to disabling OTA.

    I understanding it was frustrating to the TS, I also understand DIRECTV may have sound business reasons. It's all theory on my part but it makes sense.

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  16. Jan 4, 2013 #136 of 150
    dfd

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    While the actions it took may make sense to DirecTV the prompts did not make sense to me and that is what got me really going. If it warned of a reboot I would have taken some action to avoid missing the game.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2013 #137 of 150
    Mike Bertelson

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    That's a valid complaint. IMHO, it should have been made clear that it was going to reboot and give you the option to record what's in the buffer. I don't know how practical that is though.

    Mike
     
  18. Jan 4, 2013 #138 of 150
    veryoldschool

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    I too agree with this, and "I'd guess" it hasn't been something that's gotten much attention.
     
  19. Jan 5, 2013 #139 of 150
    studechip

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    Why? If the box is leased, Directv wants it back or the customer will be charged a significant amount of money to keep it. Your argument isn't supported by the facts.
     
  20. Jan 5, 2013 #140 of 150
    Mike Bertelson

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    I could see where someone would pay the non-returned receiver fee to continue to use as an OTA DVR with no more monthly fees; potentially years of free OTA DVR service could easily make paying the fee cost effective.

    The down side would be not guide date. Even with that I'd bet if it were possible to do there'd be plenty who would do it.

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