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Discussion in 'General DISH™ Discussion' started by R DAVIS, Nov 28, 2019.
You don't think Dish has a pretty good idea of how many subscribers watch which channels?
Each DVR connected to Internet sending (nightly) status report with ch/time log.
Zero subs watching RSN's all day today. ;^)
I suspect Dish would like to put sports in a separate billable package, but would the sports content providers agree to it rather than getting paid for ALL the subscribers? I don't think so...
Right now Sinclair is getting paid for none of DISH's subscribers (for RSNs). Apparently the loss of income isn't hurting their business. Sinclair's hope is that enough people pressure DISH to get DISH to agree to their deal. That tactic does not seem to be working. Allowing DISH to sell RSNs separately (not forced into AT120+ and above) would be bad in the long run for Sinclair and would change the way the rest of the industry buys RSNs - so I doubt Sinclair will relent unless they get pressure from other distributors. With neither company hurting we have a stalemate.
Yeah, the lack of RSN’s doesn’t seem to be hurting Dish/Sling, which has got to be ticking Sinclair off. What we may be seeing is that sports, while being quite popular, isn’t quite as popular as we’ve been led to believe. Or it could be that the bulk of those that claim to be sports fans, are finding that the sports not on the RSN’s are pretty good too.
And for the casual sports viewer the lack of RSN’s probably isn’t even much noticed. I know that I wouldn’t miss them because even though my current cable subscription has them, I don’t watch any. Instead I watch on locals mostly with a smattering of other channels now and then.
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I think sports is as popular as ever, but subscribers are sick of paying through the nose just to get these channels. Many are getting tired of a lot of the increases and are opting out for streaming or going to smaller packs. It seems nearly every programmer wants huge increases, including locals. There is a limit on what people will pay and they are showing it. I have read that some smaller cable companies are going away.
Sure, it has always been a cost issue. The teams and/or their organizations thought there was a never ending money tree, as do the sports networks. They are now starting to find out that this is winter and the leaves are starting to fall off those trees.
Going forward I think we might start to see things like sports only streaming, price is really going to be an issue.
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Sad to say I’ve left Dish after 22 years this week if ole Charlie gets the RSNs back I’ll be back the CSR offered me a free Hopper but wanted me to sign a two year contract I’m not going to commit for 2 years without no RSNs The CSR really didn’t give to much of the run around on trying to keep my account so she must be seeing more than we think about subscribers leaving .....My DVR was so old I got to keep it lol
Count me as one of those who never ever watched the RSNs. Therefore, I don't miss them. The nationally available ones (ESPN package, CBSN, NBCSN, Fox Sports) are a different matter.
I am curious since you aren't with Dish anymore does your DVR still work?
One of my DVR's went out about a year ago they replaced it and said they didn't want the old one back. Not much good since it wasn't working.
I wish I had the streaming option but I don't.
My only other option is Direct TV which I really don't want.
Do you think this will last until 2021 when the Sinclair locals on Dish are up for renewal?
It is laughable when I call into Dish the CSR's almost always say I am missing those channels as well. Why do I care about that? Is this about me or why are they making it about them? Must be a talking point on a piece of paper Dish has them recite. Like I am going to be more emphathetic? Seriously? I would never tell a customer of mine that I have the same problem they do even if true.
Kind of blows my mind.
If nothing is done in the next month they will be losing a 30 year subscriber. I remember when I first got Dish they had no locals so I had cable for locals and dish for all the other channels. I think I might go with Hulu this time, for the last month of baseball I tried YouTube, but they don't have History/A & E, that I watch. I'll probably try one month with both Dish and Hulu and see if I can get by with Hulu and then cancel.