Easiest way to get 4k

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  1. Rich

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    I've stopped buying iTunes movies. Renting them seems to make the most sense. We do have about 200 movies that we bought on iTunes and I think that was a mistake. ~ a $4,000 mistake. Renting is a lot less expensive and the movies are always available. For the cost of one movie you can rent almost four movies.

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  2. gio12

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    I hear you for a lot of folks, you’re right. But when my daughter watches Civil War 9 x es in 3 to 4 weeks, rentIng is not an option, LOL


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  3. the2130

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    Even on my new 75" TV, the difference between 1080p and 4k is barely discernable. These new 4k TVs do such a good job of upconverting that even DVDs look great. That's why I don't consider any of my BDs or DVDs obsolete just because there are newer UHDs available. These newer formats are really just a scheme by the media companies and TV makers to get people to keep buying the newest TVs and to re-purchase titles they have already paid for. I don't have a huge collection, but there are still a few I buy on occasion.

    I was a little disappointed to learn that DirecTV's top DVR doesn't do 4k, but it's really not that big a deal with only 3 4k channels. I watch an occasional 4k show on Amazon, but only because they aren't charging extra for it. And again, I can barely tell the difference. And I'm not planning to pay extra to Netflix for 4k.
     
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  4. gio12

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    Well yeah too good and some DVDs look like crap. I have the Blu-ray Star Wars 1-6 collector discs. My SONY UHD and regular Blu-ray players paired with LG OLED you can see what is cardboard background s, strings on flying ships, etc.

    So in a sense, ruins the DVDs. So yeah no obsolete. That Blu-ray. DVDs are improved but man can see every flaw


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  5. compnurd

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    It was designed this way. As formats change and specs change it is a lot easier and cheaper to replace/upgrade a client vs a whole dvr
     
  6. the2130

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    Yes, it depends on the source material.
     
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    As I understand it, only minor changes to the hardware would be needed to allow the HR54 to do 4k.

    In order to get DirecTV in 4k, I would have to move my HR54 to another room where there is currently no cabling for satellite or Internet and use a Genie client in the living room with my new TV. I would also lose one of the tuners on the HR54, which I prefer not to do. And I would have to pay an extra $7 per month for the privilege. Bottom line: way too much trouble and not worth the cost for the 3 4k channels offered by DirecTV.
     
  8. longhorn23

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    I disagree. I have a 77 inch OLED and I think there's a huge noticeable difference between 1080p and 4k content. But depends on the source. Some 4K blu-rays look amazing and some not so much. I think the picture quality on anything 4k on Directv is amazing compared to anything 1080i or 720p. Since you have amazon, I would compare the Michigan season of All or Nothing in 4k with the Dallas cowboys season of all or nothing which is just HD. Both look great but the michigan season in 4k looks way sharper.
     
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  9. Athlon646464

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    We also have an LG OLED and can see the difference, especially when moving closer to the TV as you can with 4K. It's difficult to quantify because it often depends on how well the source was produced, but all things being 'equal' - if 4K is a 10, regular HD would be a 7 or 8. The difference between live college basketball and an HD movie or TV show, however, is stunning.
     
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  10. studechip

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    You mean so the HR54 will output 4k without a C61k client?
     
  11. Athlon646464

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    No - he was speculating that it would be an easy change for the manufacturer to make - if they wanted to.
     
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  12. P Smith

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    nope!
    if you are technically savvy, you wouldn't say so
     
  13. Athlon646464

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    Not what I said - I was interpreting what 'the2130' said for 'studechip'.
     
  14. studechip

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    I understand that, but would the intent of the change be so that the HR54 would output 4k without a client? That's my question.
     
  15. Athlon646464

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    Yes - that's what he was speculating on. However, it's not gonna happen.
     
  16. slice1900

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    Yes, Directv has made their direction clear with the HS17. They aren't going to release a new DVR that outputs 4K, or any video at all.
     
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  17. P Smith

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    or any new DVR will not come at all
     
  18. gio12

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    Yeah, live 4K sports is so much better than others formats.
     
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  19. rccoleman

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    I've found that the lighting makes a big difference in discerning the difference between 4K and FHD. Some of the scenes in The Kominsky Method (streamed from Netflix using AppleTV 4K) were stunning, but largely because they were well-lit scenes of people on stage. The detail was incredible. Often movies have film grain added (if shot in digital) or are intentionally made to appear "gritty" (see Saving Private Ryan), so the FHD->4K transition isn't as dramatic. Sound can often be another key differentiator in UHD discs vs. streaming, where you're almost guaranteed to get an Atmos soundtrack on a recent UHD disk, while it's less prevalent with streaming services (but they do exist).
     
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  20. the2130

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    Yes, there are a lot of factors in how good the picture looks. I would guess that a lot of these posters who are claiming the 4k picture is waaaaaay better than 1080p are sitting a lot closer to the TV than I am. In any event, I only care how good the picture looks to me, not how good it looks to other people.
     
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