Echostar 10 - Partial Failure

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  1. spear61

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    From Dish SEC filing for 4th quarter 2017

    " In December 2017, EchoStar informed us that EchoStar X experienced anomalies resulting in the loss of some electrical power available from its solar arrays. As a result, EchoStar X is currently operating at 75% of its designed satellite capacity. Pursuant to our satellite lease agreement with EchoStar, we are entitled to a reduction in our monthly recurring lease payments in the event of a partial loss of satellite capacity or complete failure of the satellite. This satellite is currently still in service at the 110 degree orbital location. There can be no assurance that future anomalies will not further impact the commercial operation of EchoStar X. Based on the redundancy designed within our satellite fleet, we generally have in-orbit satellite capacity sufficient to transmit our existing channels and some backup capacity to recover the transmission of certain critical programming. "
     
  2. James Long

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    That may explain some of the December channel shifting.
     
  3. scooper

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    Hmm - last weekend I did some checking and some of my less popular SD locals were moved from the same 110 spotbeam as the rest to a couple of 119 spotbeams.
     
  4. GoLongAndChopChop881

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    If the EchoStar X satellite was launched in February 15th, 2006 with an expected lifetime in 15 years (3 years remaining in 2018), other satellites that launched in the early 2000s (e.g. EchoStar IX (Galaxy 23), EchoStar VII) shouldn't suffered a "significant anomaly" issue. This leaves to 119 (EchoStar XIV) and 110 ConUS (EchoStar XII) that holds the 110 spotbeam locals. EchoStar XVIII was launched in June 2016 for the 110 spotbeam orbital position, but relocated at 61.5 as an in-orbit spare. I hope if EchoStar should focus on other newer satellites for the households. ;)

    EchoStar 18
     
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  5. scooper

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    Currently, Dish provides service from the following slots
    61.5, 72.7, 77 Eastern Arc
    110, 119, 129 Western Arc
    118 International

    There MAY be an oddball out at 148

    I haven't gone through to see which satellite is at which slot, please reference www.jameslong.name
     
  6. James Long

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    I am fairly confident that there is no active satellite at 148. Certainly nothing for DISH Network subscribers.

    DISH has some channels in their channel table that appear to be at 148 but I do not trust the entries. One of the transponders listed for 148 is actually an IPTV service.
     
  7. nmetro

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    148 was being used for channels like Angel One, after most channels move doff of it. It used to be used for Denver locals, when they first came live over 15 years ago. 129 replaced it.

    It is concerning that Echostar 10 is dying. I thought satellites at 110 and 119 were both ConUS, and used by the contiguous 48 states.
     
  8. scooper

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    Both 110 and 119 have both CONUS AND Spotbeams on them. They also have special spot beams for AK and HI ( and maybe PR / VI as well). Again - check www.jameslong.name for additional details.
     
  9. James Long

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    The rest of the story ...
    dishsat2017.PNG
    Echostar X is the spotbeam satellite at 110 - Echostar XI is all CONUS.
     
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  10. P Smith

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    seems to me Clack Belt have a vacated arc from 139W to 177W

    whales and dolphins have no desire to put sats there :)
     
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  11. zippyfrog

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    I see that the lease at 129 ends in Jan 2019. Although it states that they can renew a lease each year, does Dish have the capacity to move everything off of 129 and put it just on 110 and 119? Sort of how they moved everything off of 3 satellites on EA and can now do it just on 2 satellites? I made a comment in another thread that it seems like 12 HD channels per transponder is the new norm. But not sure if there are enough transponders available on the other 2 sats to service everything even squishing 12 HD channels per transponder now.
     
  12. P Smith

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    only if DTV will sell own tpns to dish
     
  13. NYDutch

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    Don't forget Dish/E* has a hot spare sitting at 61.5 that could probably be moved wherever they need it.
     
  14. GoLongAndChopChop881

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    It says here from the Q2 2018 filing.

    "On July 30, 2018, we did not provide notice to renew our lease for the capacity of Ciel II. Accordingly, our lease for the capacity of Ciel II will expire in January 2019 at the conclusion of the initial term. There can be no assurance that the expiration of our lease for capacity of Ciel II will not have a material adverse effect on our business, results of operations and financial condition or otherwise disrupt our business."
     

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