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Employers asking for applicants Facebook passwords

Discussion in 'The OT' started by kiknwing, Mar 6, 2012.

  1. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    Why would I want to work for a company that doesn't respect a person's privacy. There is a limit to how intrusive a employer should be in the lives of their employees.
     
  2. Herdfan

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    I think a lot of these are going to be entry level jobs for people coming out college where they did who knows what. Can't see this being asked of a management level employee with a stable work history.
     
  3. fluffybear

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    Why not give the interviewer then the right then to tap your phones, go through your mail and set up webcams in your house?

    The article the OP posted has to with someone who applied to the Department of Corrections so I can understand a more vigorous background check especially with my wife and I having gone through one that still amazes me when she accepted her job as a Federal officer. There are some positions were vigorous checks need to be conducted but for most positions out there, NO WAY!
     
  4. TBoneit

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    No Social Network sites being used could count against a applicant too.

    Thoughts that could be going through the Interviewers mind.

    Don't you get along with people?
    No Friends?
    Will the applicant fit into our corporate culture?
    What Are you hiding?
    Everybody does it. (No everybody doesn't BTW)
     
  5. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    First off, if the the applicant's FB is "public" then the password isn't needed to read the page(s).
    Second, If the employer gets the password then they can make all sorts of changes including changing the password, and posting as the applicant. Not good at all.

    Not only is my FB limited to "Friends Only", but when I sign in a text msg is sent to my phone with a second unique pass code. And if a unrecognized device is used a email is sent.
    I have denied access to certain parts of my profile to even friends. I have locked mine down as much as possible. I may have even locked down the "find my FB page using search" or something to that affect.
     
  6. phrelin

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    Ok. Here's the thing. You don't have to give out any password and five years from now you would probably win an appeals court decision allowing you to bring a lawsuit if they asked for your password, you refused, and you weren't hired.

    But we're talking about real amateurs in the employment screening business.

    For jobs that have serious screening, like law enforcement in California, those who do background checks don't need a password to look at your Facebook and other web site postings.

    There is no such thing as privacy on the internet. In legal jargon, you may have "an expectation of privacy." That and $5,000 up front will hire you an attorney.

    My guess is we all have some kind of security software on our computers because, even though nobody really cares about most of us, our own computers can be hacked.

    So why would we expect privacy on Facebook, of all places?
     
  7. Tiny

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    whats next do they want my pin # to my debit card?:eek2:
     
  8. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    If you give someone your password then you are asking for big trouble.
    They can look at all of my public postings they want, I'll even give them the names of the public FB pages? Heck, here is one: https://www.facebook.com/komu8
    But I will not surrender any of my passwords. And if any employers have any respect for privacy, and security they won't ask for it.
    High security jobs might be an exception.
     
  9. Upstream

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    On the other hand, if I am hiring someone who has access to my company's confidential information, and they are willing to provide their facebook password to me, then maybe they aren't the person I can trust to keep confidential information confidential.

    If they aren't willing to protect their own confidential information, then why would they be willing to protect my company's confidential information.
     
  10. phrelin

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    If you tell me you have any confidential information posted on Facebook, that's all I need to know about you.;)
     
  11. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    Nope, it could mean that I don't want you to have access to the settings, to be able to "Friend" people I don't know (and might be spies) , to change my password, etc.
    Phrelin do you have a FB Page?
     
  12. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    No respectable company is going to change PWs on ya', aren't going to friend anyone, aren't gonna post. They just want to have a complete picture of your web presence.

    If they aren't respectable, what are you (not YOU, BP) doing interviewing with them in the first place?
     
  13. phrelin

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    Yep. And I wouldn't give someone the password, but I do have non-Facebook acquaintances who can access anything there. So I don't post anything confidential there.

    Then again, I'm old and retired so I'm really not of much interest to anyone. Except for, maybe, he says hopefully, some of the things I post here and on my blog.:sure:
     
  14. James Long

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    I'm not sure. Only one of the pre-employment physicals I took asked for that check. Once the doctor has you in the room it is hard to refuse without "failing" the pre-employment physical and having that on your record.

    The first two medical exams were for jobs requiring a CDL (heavy trucks). The third exam was for a warehouse job and they made me do situps and lift weights. The job required an employee to lift up to 75 pounds so they put 75 pounds in a box and said lift it (working up from lower weights). If you didn't make 75 you were disqualified for the job.

    I passed all sorts of pre-employment mental tests (the one for the TSA was interesting). Most of them tested logic and concentration skills. The job I took hired me based on my resume and an interview with my manager and the person I replaced. Although I still had to fill a cup to the line and answer a lot of health related questions.

    Employers want healthy drug free people who can do the job they are hired to do. I like to work with healthy drug free people. I think of it as joining a HOA. You can't complain about the rules applying to you when you want your coworkers to honor those rules.

    I would not expect to know my coworker's passwords at work and especially at home. I don't want to know their passwords. And I don't want them knowing mine.
     
  15. dpeters11

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    There are times I'm asked the opposite, users ask me what their password is, either into our network, iTunes, or even the account password for their cell service. They are surprised when I tell them I have no way of seeing what their network password is, but can change it.

    People still don't understand how passwords work.
     
  16. phrelin

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    It seems like the time I began having a regular prostate exam and the time I began having to regularly cope with creating and remembering passwords were about the same time. And neither is a "fun" experience.
     
  17. scooper

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    OK - I just started a new job, that required a 7 year background check. Given my background / history - it was a piece of cake.

    Nothing was mentioned about any internet activity. And if they had asked about any passwords - I would have told them -"YOu want me to give you access to my private stuff - now will you give me access to yours ?" - doesn't matter that I don't use facebook or too many other social media sites either. These BBS forums are as close as I come to that. And I like it that way....
     
  18. RasputinAXP

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    First line of defense in my job is "never give your password to anybody."

    Second line is "NEVER give you PASSWORD to ANYBODY."

    My question would be "is this some sort of test?"
     
  19. Mark Holtz

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    Of course, I can say, "You want my passwords? Here is my KeePass password file. It will take you about 5 million years using a desktop PC to crack my KeePass composite password. Of course, for some key accounts, I use a two-factor authentication system, so even if you have my password, you still need the authentication key. Now, if I'm paranoid about my keeping my personal information confidential, think how I would be with your company's information."

    A good test of a password would be www.howsecureismypassword.net .
     
  20. SayWhat?

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    You want me to type my password(s) into an unknown site to see how secure it is?
     

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