Enabling MRV using your home networking

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  1. May 21, 2010 #301 of 1195
    jdspencer

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    Finally, after several emails, I have the unsupported MRV enabled.:) I did change my package to get rid of the grandfathered HD and DVR services, just so that I wouldn't have to call to keep it. Worth the extra $1 for me. Plus the $3 for MRV is okay too!
     
  2. May 21, 2010 #302 of 1195
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    1 megabit per sec is definitely not fast enough. Most of us have to have N speed, or about 135 to 150 megabits per sec actual throughput. Some have gotten borderline performance with wireless G at 27 megabits per sec, but if your quote is right a 1 megabit per sec, then there isn't a chance.

    Now's a good time to go SWM/DECA....very good prices with install and any required equipment, supported by D*. If you do your own networking, you may have trouble getting authorized, as it is unsupported, and you will get no help from D*.

    If I were in your shoes, I'd go SWM/DECA as soon as I could.

    I'm running a home network with both wired and wireless N, and getting super results, but I am going to order the SWM/DECA upgrade very, very soon. (I need one more tuner than I have, and the SWM installation has better fade performance than a conventional LNB.)
     
  3. May 21, 2010 #303 of 1195
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    I will try to disconnect the cat5 going into the dvr, and plug it to a laptop and perform a speedtest and let you know what I have on the speed. curse you timewarner and your crappy speed!
     
  4. May 21, 2010 #304 of 1195
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    Hmmm...I've had great speeds with TW. My latest via speetest.net:

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    I'd be interested in seeing what you're seeing.
     
  5. May 21, 2010 #305 of 1195
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    not me here in columbus ohio. I have the RR turbo, and just did a wireless speedtest, and got 3.73Mbps. and on hardwired, it's not that much better. this is RR turbo mind you.

    also, I just noticed on a chart, that if you have just the R22, you would need DECA to make MRV work, is that true? or can regular home networking work in this instance?
     
  6. May 21, 2010 #306 of 1195
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    For MRV purposes, your ISP has nothing to do with it. The DVRs connected are communicating with each other directly. Your ISP does come into the act for On Demand.
     
  7. May 21, 2010 #307 of 1195
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    what does your WAN speed have to do with MRV? MRV performance depends on your LAN performance - it doesn't have to go the Internet to do anything.
     
  8. May 21, 2010 #308 of 1195
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    Woody, we aren't talking about your internet speed...that means nothing for MRV. We are only concerned with the speed between two MRV capable units and that is INSIDE your network, not involving your internet connection at all.

    Basically, if you are running wireless between a couple of DVRs, you need peak speeds of at least 25 megabit per sec across the wireless. That is why wireless G is a problem (much of the time), at only 27 megabit per sec at best, and why N can work well, yielding 135 to 150 megabit per sec...these are actual throughput measurements, not advertised 54 mbps and 300 mbps respectively. Actual throughput is typically about one half the rated/advertised speed, hence 300 mbps = 150 (N) and 54 mbps = 27 (G).

    This all assumes your wireless system is working at top performance. If it isn't, then you won't even see the half-speed numbers listed above and that can cause severe problems for MRV, especially on an HD signal.

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. May 21, 2010 #309 of 1195
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    I just got a confirmation e-mail that they turned it on. I just verified that it works. For what it's worth I have the "old" Total Choice Plus with locals - so it CAN be done without "upgrading" your package.

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  10. May 21, 2010 #310 of 1195
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    Thanks for expanding on what I said. :D
     
  11. May 21, 2010 #311 of 1195
    hasan

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    Anytime:)

    Now let's hope it helps!
     
  12. May 21, 2010 #312 of 1195
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    Of course it can, I did it yesterday morning at 9:30 a.m. with exactly the package you have. The CSRs, and D* emailers are causing a lot of difficulty for us home networkers. As always, patience and perseverance pay off.

    The only question I had was did they "change the rules" after the BETA expired yesterday afternoon. Your info indicates they have not (unless you sent the email before yesterday around 2 p.m.)
     
  13. May 21, 2010 #313 of 1195
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    No I sent my email on today (Friday 5/21) at about 2PM Eastern
     
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    I didn't have very good luck with the e-mail route, so, I called customer service, told them what I wanted, the guy first said "I need the 99+49 deal", but when I told him I was willing to go unsupported, he gave me no trouble and did the whole thing in about 2-3 minutes. I suspect others have similar results, but people here are posting more complaints than successes...

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    I know. I was just curious as to what his Time Warner speeds were as I've had no issue with mine.
     
  16. May 21, 2010 #316 of 1195
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    Hey, Doug!

    Thanks for the advise. Sent a message to DirecTV last night (did a lot of copying & pasting from your original post) and MRV is back in business today.

    Got to love it!
     
  17. May 21, 2010 #317 of 1195
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    Apparently they did not make me change packages. I am getting the MRV installed next friday and they turned on unsupported until they come. In addition, the are upgrading my r15 to an hr22 at no cost. Only reason went the full MRV package, I have three areas with one tuner only, my understanding this will enable the two tuners on those tvs. So by the end I will have 5 HD DVR hooked up to MRV viewing. With a 1tb and 750 gig hd on two, I should have a good storage library now :)
     
  18. May 21, 2010 #318 of 1195
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    Did not work for me after 24 hours so on the phone...
     
  19. May 21, 2010 #319 of 1195
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    hi hasan, thank you for your reply. I thought to achieve good performace, internet speeds matter. I'm sorry I got this thing all mixed up, what can I say, I'm a stupid n00b...lol

    ok, here is my set up, I have a Belkin wireless G router, (54mbps), and then to get to the HR21, it is on 2 Netgear XE102 (11mbps), and to get to R22, it is off another XE102. based on what you said, the XE102 powerline adapter certainly is not going to cut it, is it? to increase performance, would you say that I need to get a faster N router? that would be the first step, I am guessing.

    after the N router is acquired, would I need to get faster powerline adapter as well? that 11mbps seemed super paltry now, am I right?

    also does anyone have information on whether or not for R22 to get MRV, a DECA is required? according to some silly chart I saw, we would need it. so I am curious to know if this is the actual truth. any feedback again would be greatly appreciated.
     
  20. May 21, 2010 #320 of 1195
    hasan

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    With everything you would need to get your own network up to snuff (what you have is NOT going to work), you would be far, far better off taking advantage of the current upgrade to SWM/DECA. It's a no brainer in your circumstance. They are swapping out equipment at no additional cost (within some limits, call and see what they say you need, and what the total cost would be...bargain with them, ask for consideration, etc. etc.)

    You are in the right spot at the right time to take advantage of the current offer. My advice: don't pass it up.

    I, on the other hand have a fully functioning high speed network and could do without SWM/DECA, but I do need another tuner line, so I'm going to order the upgrade, perhaps tomorrow and end up running a hybrid system. I have two dishes. One will be converted to SWM/DECA and have two HD DVRs and an HD Receiver on it. The other dish at the other end of the house will stay as it is on an HR20-100 DVR with a WET610N N wireless adapter which will connect to the SWM/DECA setup wirelessly via my D-Link eXtreme 825 dual band router/gigabit switch (hence the "hybrid" description).

    Call D* and see what kind of deal you can cut. I think you will see in short order that it's a far better approach than reworking your existing network.
     
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