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Enabling MRV using your home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, May 20, 2010.

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  1. Jul 16, 2011 #941 of 1195
    erniegiro

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    waylonrobert, thanks for your replies.

    I am feeling more encouraged after reading your replies that the setup will continue to work. Good to know your ethernet setup's been working flawlessly.

    I'm thinking the overnight firmware update might have have been responsible for the HR24's dropping itself from the network. Can't think of any other reason, but I'm not an expert...;)

    Regarding SWiM, yes I am on SWiM. The extra cable issue was what the tech rep suggested, even though I explained I had a SWim install, his comment was that the DECA adaptor would come downstream from the dish, and would have to be near the router, for the ethernet cable to be attached to it, so then from the DECA adapter, a cable would go to the splitter, then the splitter to each box. The existing splitter is on one side of the outside of the house, the router in a closet on the opposite side of the house from the splitter and the splitter connects to internal house wiring . The cabling would go from the dish to the DECA to connect to the router, and then from the DECA back across the house to the splitter.

    I plan to keep the appointment, at least for the next week while I monitor the situation. It's coming at n/c to me, and I'll see if I can reconcile my feelings with the possibility of faster response time with DECA, vs. more wiring coming into the house.
     
  2. Jul 16, 2011 #942 of 1195
    veryoldschool

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    I believe this was why too, as I've seen the same thing.
    I have DECA and it works fine/great for me.
    Is it faster than ethernet? :shrug: If your ethernet is working well, then no. If it has a lot of other traffic on it, then "maybe". ;)
     
  3. Jul 16, 2011 #943 of 1195
    erniegiro

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    veryoldschool, thanks for the reply, encouraging that you think the same I do regarding the reboot following the sw download.
     
  4. Jul 16, 2011 #944 of 1195
    lugnutathome

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    He is a wealth of knowledge! I swear he *is* the engineering dept;)

    I run Ethernet from 7 DVRs and use a CCK to bridge a small DECA cloud for my standard HD receivers. I have 2 HR24s on Ethernet and none of these issues well there was one issue.

    The HR24 has built in DECA AND an Ethernet port and it is an "either or" situation with the Ethernet port taking priority (like plugging in an earphone jack disables speakers on most audio devices). But the unit was intended as being DECA connected primarily.

    DECA was built so it could run independent of outside Ethernet communications and has such has it's own default IP sequencing pretty well foreign to most home network sequences. I have seen updates overwrite the home network address with the DECA "default" mask and that device no longer sees the network such as you experienced.

    In my case I was able to redo manual network setup and it populated with the proper DHCP served address without having to key it in. But just doing a default network connection (not selecting the manual menu option) maintained the unusable (for a home LAN router) DECA default address.

    Since that was precipitated in my case by a firmware update, I've not seen it recur. Its likely you will be just fine now and the next firmware download probably won't affect it.

    It's one of those things that just happens once in awhile and as an unsupported service user part of the adventure.

    Don "it may not happen again" Bolton
     
  5. Jul 17, 2011 #945 of 1195
    erniegiro

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    quote[I have seen updates overwrite the home network address with the DECA "default" mask and that device no longer sees the network such as you experienced.

    In my case I was able to redo manual network setup and it populated with the proper DHCP served address without having to key it in. But just doing a default network connection (not selecting the manual menu option) maintained the unusable (for a home LAN router) DECA default address.

    Since that was precipitated in my case by a firmware update, I've not seen it recur. Its likely you will be just fine now and the next firmware download probably won't affect it.]quote

    lugnutatahome, your experience following the FW update parallels what happened to me, likewise in my case manually entering my ip address, subnet mask, gateway, etc. also did not override the DECA address, until I rebooted the receiver, redid the network setup, in my case the HR24 then used my network settings, and then it was able rejoin the network.

    I have another 10 days before my service appointment to install a cinema hookup kit, if nothing happens between now and then, I may cancel the install, but I may wind up keeping it so I can join the DECA crowd, maybe some other feature in the future may use DECA exclusively and in that case it may be to my advantage to have it.

    Thanks to all you members who have replied to my questions, I really appreciate the comments and hearing about your experiences.
     
  6. Jul 29, 2011 #946 of 1195
    VelvetUn

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    I have emailed DirecTV three times asking them to turn on WHDRV in unsupported mode. To the companies' credit, the email response team was quick to respond. However, DirecTV is still insisting that I need to have DECA and SWM installed.

    From what I've scanned in this thread, people have successfully networked two HD DVRs (in my case HR24 and HR21) without SWM, correct?

    I'm still waiting to see if the email team responds to my third email as its been nearly 24 hours.
     
  7. Jul 29, 2011 #947 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    If you're using Ethernet (aka Unsupported Mode) SWM is irrelevant.
     
  8. Jul 29, 2011 #948 of 1195
    VelvetUn

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    That's what I thought, thanks.
     
  9. Jul 29, 2011 #949 of 1195
    The Merg

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    Post what you are e-mailing DirecTV. We can probably help you tweak it to help you out...

    - Merg
     
  10. Jul 29, 2011 #950 of 1195
    VelvetUn

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    I just figured out that they have turned on the service; it took about 25 hours after my last email. I hadn't checked my email and I was watching TV downstairs when I looked at my DVR list, the most recently recorded program was something I thought I had recorded on the other DVR. Sure enough, I checked my email and had received confirmation.

    I'm just glad I didn't have to deal with any networking nightmares. Thanks to everyone in this thread who have posted over the last 16 months; it has been very helpful.
     
  11. Jul 31, 2011 #951 of 1195
    Tebbens

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    Someone please tell me where to send this email ??

    I just installed an SWM-16 without DECA and want to try MRV via my Gigabit network.

    Thanks !
    Matthew
     
  12. Jul 31, 2011 #952 of 1195
    Tebbens

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    Disregard... just activated via Phone ! :)
     
  13. Aug 14, 2011 #953 of 1195
    Arboleda

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    I was able to activate over the phone. Spoke to a woman named Chris in tech support and she set me up without any hassle. She knew exactly what I was talking about.

    So I was able to keep my non-SWM setup but with ethernet (hard-wired) run to each DVR. MRV and on-demand now work!
     
  14. Aug 27, 2011 #954 of 1195
    Patrickmathews

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    I just found these forums and read through a lot of the 38 pages of this post but didn't find my exact questions.

    I have an H23-700 DVR and H21-200. Both are connected to a home router and see the internet. I don't have a DECA installed anywhere. Can I enable the whole home DVR in "unsupported" mode with this setup?

    I also don't get a lot of the on demand, you tube search and other internet based features on the H21 receiver that I do on the H23 DVR. Is this a function of one being a DVR versus not a DVR?

    I have a third location I want to put a TV in that has both RG6 and Cat 5. Am I better off getting the box from DTV or from another source so I can hopefully get a newer box? Is there a recommended source for this equipment besides DTV? I see a lot of stuff on ebay but someone told me to stay away from it as DTV won't activate it sometimes. Given my desire to enable whole home DVR, should I get some specific equipment for this location?

    I am very familiar with IP networking so I can comfortably change settings if needed.

    Thanks very much,

    Patrick
     
  15. Aug 27, 2011 #955 of 1195
    dsw2112

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    That's what "unsupported" mode is for, however you do need a DVR to use the service (I'm guessing the H23 is an HR23 from the rest of your post.) See here to activate:
    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?p=2465353#post2465353


    That's correct
     
  16. Aug 27, 2011 #956 of 1195
    Vin

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    Solid Signal http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=HR24&d=DIRECTV-NEW-HR24-High-Definition-DIRECTV-PLUS-MPEG-4-DVR-(HR24)-HD-DVR&sku=085463000521 and Amazon http://www.amazon.com/DIRECTV-Plus-HR24-Definition-MPEG-4/dp/B004C26XHQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1314468661&sr=8-2 are safe places to buy DirecTV equipment from and you'll be able to get the newest model, , i.e., the HR24. DirecTV will not be able to guarantee a specific model if you get it directly from them but you can often negotiate with them to credit your account for part of the cost of a DVR you've purchased elsewhere. See what they're willing to do for you and have it noted on your account before you buy. The amount they offer you will then be applied when you call them back to activate the new DVR.

    A used HR2x from ebay will not be activated by DirecTV unless it was owned. Sellers will often claim their DVR is owned...sometimes because they actually believe it even though it's leased but they're are also some sellers that intentionally deceive potential buyers. And finally, there really are some that are truly owned which would require a new access card from DirecTV for $20. The only way to know for sure is to get the unit's RID# from the seller and call DirecTV before buying to make sure it's an owned model which can in fact be transferred to a new customer and activated.
     
  17. Aug 27, 2011 #957 of 1195
    Matt L

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    I've had a slightly different experience with ebay and D. I always check the RID before I buy, and bought a unit a year or two ago at a good price to have when I wanted to add another HDTV. when I went to activate it somehow it came up as Leased. However- D would activate it with a 2 year commitment.

    Since I"m out of contract and all my other boxes are listed as owned, I opted not to use it. I did find a owned box on ebay lat month for $55 so I grabbed it and all is good. I'll pass the leased box on to a relative that is doing an upgrade and will have a 2 year commitment anyway. they will have a second HD box for the $60 I put into it instead of the $199 D wanted for the second HR box. they don't care if it's not an HR24, so no issues.
     
  18. Aug 30, 2011 #958 of 1195
    Patrickmathews

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    I followed the activation instructions by using the website form last Saturday and have not heard anything back - is this typical or should I call?
     
  19. Aug 31, 2011 #959 of 1195
    Rent_Share

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    Have an HR20, HR21 and HR23 {21(wireless) & 23 (wired) connected to existing network}

    Any issues if I attempt to activate before investing in Switch and cabling to isolate the DVR whole house network in it's own cloud ?
     
  20. Aug 31, 2011 #960 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    You really don't need to put the DVRs on their own network.
     
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