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Enabling MRV using your home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, May 20, 2010.

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  1. Oct 31, 2011 #981 of 1195
    heisman6183

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    I have a question about setting up Whole Home DVR in unsupported mode. What I would like to do is connect my H21 to a router in the basement via ethernet. My HR21 would be connected to an AirPort Extreme via ethernet, the AirPort Extreme would be connected to the router in the basement via ethernet. Is this going to give me the connectivity I need or do both DirecTV boxes need to be connected directly to the router, or directly to the AirPort Extreme? Thanks.
     
  2. Oct 31, 2011 #982 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    I really don't understand the purpose of having an AirPort Extreme and a separate router. But yes, both the H21 and the HR21 need to be connected to one device. The way you're talking about it, they'd essentially be on separate networks which will not work.
     
  3. Oct 31, 2011 #983 of 1195
    heisman6183

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    The reason for the AirPort Extreme next to the HR21 is I have other devices connected (SlingBox, Blu Ray player). It sounds like my setup isn't going to work for MRV the way I want it and I'm not willing to pay DirecTV to set it up and I really don't want more wires and dongles attached to my equipment. I just lost the B band converters when I moved and got a SWM. I might just take their offer of a free HD DVR upgrade and take the 2 year commitment that comes with it, unfortunately.
     
  4. Oct 31, 2011 #984 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    All you need in this case is a $20 switch, not a ridiculously expensive wireless router. That would solve all of your problems.
     
  5. Nov 1, 2011 #985 of 1195
    Beerstalker

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    Jeremy he has the two routers hooked together with an ethernet cable. I'm assuming that means he has the Airport extreme set up to just work as a switch/wireless access point and is not using it as a router. So it should work shouldn't it?
     
  6. Nov 1, 2011 #986 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    If he's got it in bridge mode, yes it should work. It's still way overkill.
     
  7. Nov 1, 2011 #987 of 1195
    heisman6183

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    I currently do not have a router besides the AirPort Extreme, it is my only internet connected device. I have 3 devices using the wired ports on the back, the DirecTV receiver for OnDemand. In order to get an ethernet cable to the other DirecTV receiver I'd have to run one of the outs on the Extreme back down through the basement and up to the H21 which isn't feasible, but I could split off the internet connection as it comes in the house, one ethernet cable to the H21, the other to the AirPort Extreme and then to the HR21/Slingbox. From what I understand, this won't work. The only real hangup is the Slingbox. It has to be near the DirecTV box and it has to have a wired connection (I'm not paying for the SlingLink devices), meaning I need 2 wired connections near the HR21.
     
  8. Nov 1, 2011 #988 of 1195
    Jeremy W

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    You've already got SWM, why not just buy a couple DECAs and be done with it? It seems like you're making this much more complex than it needs to be.
     
  9. Nov 1, 2011 #989 of 1195
    harsh

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    You're understanding is correct. You can't have any LAN equipment on the WAN side of the router. All DIRECTV receivers must be on the same LAN.
    Sounds like you're being a little fussy. If HomePlug works at all, you'll be fine.

    Anywhere you have one Ethernet cable, you can add a switch and turn it into many Ethernet ports. Gigabyte Ethernet switches are relatively cheap and they work as well or better than the switches built into most routers.
     
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    Jeremy W

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    That would be gigabit. Big difference.
     
  11. Nov 2, 2011 #991 of 1195
    harsh

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    My bad. I was going to use the term GigE but outsmarted myself.
     
  12. Nov 3, 2011 #992 of 1195
    heisman6183

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    I got my MRV working. First, I used the email method to get the service connected in unsupported mode. I even have the +HDDVR legacy package and I didn't have to change packages to get service activated. I then left my HD DVR connected to my Extreme router as it had been for On Demand and connected my HD box to my Express via the single ethernet port on it (I had to set up my home network as a WDS to enable the port) and it works like a charm. I'm actually kind of surprised, I didn't think it would be that easy. I didn't have to buy any extra equipment and didn't have to run any new wires.
     
  13. Nov 8, 2011 #993 of 1195
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    Well got my receivers networked and sent the email from the first page and got shot down. I received an email back stating I would have to call and have a SWiM network installed.

    I was under the impression I only needed the SWiM if I had the newer equipment. Maybe I misunderstood some of the post. I wanted to get around having to upgrade things to get this to work.
     
  14. Nov 8, 2011 #994 of 1195
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    well you "could" call 10Gbase-T Gigabyte ethernet but I have yet to find a 10Gbase-T switch (I've found transceivers that offten use the SFP port) but not full 10Gbase-T (much easier to find 10gig fiber)

    and even then I wouldn't call it gigabyte ethernet even though it would be 1.25Gigabytes per sec ethernet
     
  15. Nov 8, 2011 #995 of 1195
    DarkLogix

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    You have to have SWM to use DECA, and using direct ethernet is considered by D* unsupported
     
  16. Nov 8, 2011 #996 of 1195
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    Ok I thought the SWiM was for certain receivers and dishes. I guess I was totally off base. I thought I had seen a drawing of DECA without a SWiM.

    So I have an HR-20 and HR-21, with an older dish. Will I have to have any upgrades to accomplish this?
     
  17. Nov 8, 2011 #997 of 1195
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    Reply to the initial e-mail and reiterate that you want to have MRV turned on in an unsupported mode. That should hopefully take care of things for you.

    If you opt to upgrade, you will need to have a SWM-LNB dish installed or a SWM-8 installed with your current dish. You would then only need one coax going to each DVR. Behind the DVR's you would have DECAs installed. You would also need a Cinema Connection Kit to connect your router to your receivers via the DECA cloud.

    In your case, the simplest way to get going would be to have them turn on MRV in an unsupported mode.

    - Merg
     
  18. Nov 8, 2011 #998 of 1195
    DarkLogix

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    well for deca to work they all need to be on a common coax
    non-swm the coax is seperated so SWM is needed for compatability with DECA

    technicaly using ethernet networking MRV can work its just unsupported but if you get them to turn it on then it'll work
     
  19. Nov 9, 2011 #999 of 1195
    braz9

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    Ahh I understand now.

    So after looking through the picture thread, it looks like if I go the supported path I will have a SWM that will have all the sat. inputs come into and them a run to each receiver with a DECA at it?

    I noticed a lot of the pictures just showed one input into the back of a receiver, can I assume that was non-DVR receiver? I will have two DVRs in my setup and would like to keep the max recording abilities for each.

    Sorry to be so dense, I just want to make sure I understand what I am getting into before I do this. I do not have a lot of space and if I need to put extra devices in I need to make sure I have a place.
     
  20. Nov 9, 2011 #1000 of 1195
    veryoldschool

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    SWiM uses a single coax for dual tuner function, and allows moving receivers around much easier, as any place you have a coax, can be one or more receivers/DVRs.
     
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