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Enabling MRV using your home networking

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Doug Brott, May 20, 2010.

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  1. Nov 9, 2011 #1001 of 1195
    lugnutathome

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    One of the SWM architecture's best features in my opinion is that it carries multiple channels over a single wire. A DVR only needs a single coax and upon boot (or menu settings in some cases) it detects SWM and configures itself accordingly.

    So anywhere you have a single coax line you can have a full dual tuner functioning DVR. This was one of the compelling reasons (for me) to change my infrastructure over.

    I still run primarily Ethernet for my WHDVR connections but that's largely because I've excessively long cable runs (over 80 feet in all cases but several out between 130ft and 190ft on the extreme).

    Don "SWM is really cool, it adds gain, single line per DVR, and for those of you without 'Winchester houses' DECA yeah!" Bolton
     
  2. Nov 9, 2011 #1002 of 1195
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    As others have said with SWM you don't need 2 coax on a reciver even if its the awsome HR34 which has 5 Tuners

    each port on a SWM can do upto 8 tuners (SWM8 really only has one port with an internal splitter) so if you have a SWM8, an HR34, an HR24, and a H25 you'd only need 2x 2way splitters to provide those 3 recivers with the 8 tuner connections they need

    as a note the HR34 isn't available en mass yet I just used it in the text here as an example
     
  3. DarkLogix

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    Well I have the 2 capable recivers that I have networked via deca and sent an e-mail similer to the one in the OP
    and haven't gotten any reply in 96hours

    I guess DTV doesn't reply to me e-mails
     
  4. waylonrobert

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    96 hours is way too long to wait. Send the e-mail again. Which method did you use? I'd also check junk/spam folders to be sure - my reply initially fell into my spam folder.
     
  5. DCulver

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    After 7 calls to tech support this morning, I finally got someone who knew what I was asking for when I requested activation of Whole Home DVR with an unsupported network. It surprises me that some of these people don't do any research into what they do for a living. I can understand a script reading CSR not being informed, but I would think tech support would have a better understanding of their system. Anyway, I'm on WHDVR and loving it!
     
  6. Davenlr

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    Well, to be honest, only members of this board and maybe one other forum even know there is an unsupported MRV activation. 99% of the rest of the customers get the supported version. The unsupported method was, I think, implemented as a favor for those of us who tested it during its development, and wanted to continue using it without purchasing the "supported" install.

    I really would not expect a CSR to know about it after all this time, unless they had previously worked during the couple weeks where we were all calling in to have it activated.
     
  7. DCulver

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    Dave - I was talking about the lack of knowledge on the part of tech support people, I assume a step up from the CSR's. It's just that if that's what I did for a living, I would put some effort into understanding the concept behind how the system worked. You wouldn't believe (well, you probably would) some of the responses I got on how it was impossible to have MRV over a home network.
     
  8. veryoldschool

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    I think if you knew how this whole thing came about, you wouldn't assume.
    DirecTV's initial intend was to ONLY have MRV with DECA.
    This came down to the very last min before release, and they opened up a loophole for those that had been testing it for them over a year.
    This "loophole" never made it into their system for training.
     
  9. zx10guy

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    http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/powerconnect-8024/pd

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    The transceivers you mention that support 10GigE are SFP+ not SFP. They look the same physically but are different internally. Also, the SFP+ spec does not have the ability to drive the power needed to run 10GBaseT. That is why you don't see RJ45 SFP+ transceivers. The RJ45 transceivers you see out there are only SFP and only support 1GigE and below dependent on the ASIC chips in the switch. Some 10Gig switches do not step down or support 1Gig and some 10Gig switches support 1 Gig but won't do 100 Mb. There is also another connectivity option for 10Gig which is twinax. This cabling provides a cheap way to connect a host to the switch on 10Gig without the expense of doing it over fiber. The issue is that twinax has limited distance support with 10 meters being the longest with an active twinax cable. And the other drawback is not all twinax cabling will work with all switches and devices.

    The PowerConnect 8024 referenced above has 24 ports of RJ45 which support 10/100/1G and 10G.
     
  10. zx10guy

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    Just wanted to provide my experience with MRV.

    I submitted the request via the instructions at the beginning of this thread at 9:30 EST today. I got a reply back at 12:30 EST (3 hours later) from Rocky S. at customer service telling me I'm all set. Went and completed the configuration of my HD boxes and all is working well.
     
  11. dndweeks

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    just did the email at 8:20am this morning and got this reply at 9:40am

    Response Via Email MOD EDIT- 11/28/2011 09:39 AM
    Dear Mr. *****,

    Thanks for writing. I see you've been with us for many years and I would like to let you know that we appreciate your business.

    I understand you're concerned about adding the Whole-Home DVR Service to your DIRECTV account. I'll be glad to help resolve this for you.

    Per your request, I have added the Whole-Home DVR Service at $3.00 per month to your account. Because DIRECTV bills you for service at the start of your billing period, any changes you make mid month, such as adding a service, will show as partial month charges from the day you made the change to the end of the 30 day billing day period.

    The changes to your account will be reflected on your next DIRECTV bill, or you can see them immediately by signing into your DIRECTV account online at directv.com/mydirectv and clicking on the "Activity Since Last Bill" section in the "Account Details" page.

    Please be advised that since you've added Whole-Home DVR Service without our upgrade offer, we will be unable to provide additional support (troubleshooting) specific to the Whole-Home DVR Service.

    We're happy to have you as a loyal DIRECTV customer and we look forward to providing you service for years to come.

    Thanks again for writing.

    Sincerely,

    MOD EDIT
    DIRECTV Customer Service
     
  12. DarkLogix

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    I'm not going to worry about it
    I won't be fully interested till I get a HR34 as I don't really want to share my HR20's playlist till its in the living room

    I just wanted to enable MRV now so it would be over and done with but not enough to hunt D* down over getting them to answer my e-mail
     
  13. Dec 2, 2011 #1013 of 1195
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    Just received a SWM16 with PI29R power inserter, 2 DTV SWM splitters 1x4, all green label, and DTV Cinema connection kit. Currently have 4 lines from the dish to a couple of WB68s running to 2 x HR21 and 4 X HD22, all installed by DTV.

    As I see it: get rid of the WB68s and replace with the SWM16. 1 spliter from lines 1-8 out, the other from lines 9-16 out. On the power supply, connect the power to SWM and terminate the signal to IRD. Connect the Cinema kit, wireless, as described in the User's Manual that came with the kit, coax from switch to the kit, and then coax and included Cat5 from the kit to one of the HD22s. Email direct TV as described early in the post. And expect to have Whole Home and Cinemaplus. Sounds pretty simple. Have I missed something? Like maybe a half a dozen DECAs, one for each HD?

    Thanks a lot.

    LPB
     
  14. Dec 2, 2011 #1014 of 1195
    DarkLogix

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    Sounds like you have it covered
    though with 4x HD recivers and 2x HD-DVR's you could use a 1x2 splitter instead of a 1x4 for one of the legs for easy config

    is the CCK the W or the non-W model? the W has a pass through the other doesn't

    if its the W then you could run a 1x2 splitter on one leg and a 1x4 on the other (just because to have the best signal possible) then whichever reciver or DVR is closest to your network switch, or just use wireless, and the passthrough so you can avoid an extra splitter
     
  15. Dec 2, 2011 #1015 of 1195
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    The W- CCK can also double as a DECA replacement, so if you've ordered 6, you'll have a spare.
     
  16. Dec 2, 2011 #1016 of 1195
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    Batter add a BSF if you're going to use it to "double" as a white DECA.
     
  17. Dec 2, 2011 #1017 of 1195
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    VOS, I remember adding the BSF and I'll have to go check my configuration tomorrow, but if the W-CCK isn't daisy chained (via coax) to a H/HR, but just sitting near enough for the ethernet connection, there's no requirement for the BSF, right?

    I guess what we're saying is the W-CCK doesn't attenuate the DECA signal like a DECA does?
     
  18. Dec 2, 2011 #1018 of 1195
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    the Wireless CCK has a pass through mode, so if one uses this, without a DECA on/in the receiver, then a BSF is needed.
    If you don't use the pass through, but still use it to link to the receiver's network jack, you still need a BSF if the receiver's input isn't being "protected" by a DECA.
     
  19. Dec 2, 2011 #1019 of 1195
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    So any 'non built-in DECA' H/HR that doesn't have a DECA on it needs a BSF?
     
  20. Dec 3, 2011 #1020 of 1195
    veryoldschool

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    "Basically".
    DECA [signal] needs to be blocked from the SAT tuner, by a filter or a DECA. This is true for all receivers on the SWiM.
    The tuner chip is only spec'd for -20 dBm, which DECA is higher than.
     
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