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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by fkubick, Jan 20, 2013.
IOW, since Direct doesn't have it, it must not be of value. I knew we'd get that point soon.
YEP. Knew that yesterday.:hurah:
It isn't of any decent worth, but that has nothing to do with who does or does not carry it.
Yep again you just proved my point Thank you.
Cause Directv didn't want it, then it wasn't of any value.:hurah:
Let me know when the Directv/Hoosier wedding is , I would love to attend.!!!:kisshead:
I said it doesn't have enough value for DirecTV to add it. That much is true and obvious. They determined that in August of 2009 and then reaffirmed it last year when negotiating with Viacom.
There are two ways of looking at "value" - what is a valued channel for some viewers and what adds value to DirecTV's bottom line. If DirecTV thinks they can charge more for a channel than they have to pay for it (including both direct and indirect costs), it is of value to DirecTV regardless of the quality of the programming.
In the other hand, if a channel has programming that some (or even most) viewers would value, but the cost to DirecTV is more than DirecTV feels they can pass on to customers or make up for by the addition of new customers, then the channel has no value to DirecTV.
It is really pretty simple. DirecTV knows what the break-even point is for each channel that it carries and for each channel that it does not carry. DirecTV knows that if they add a channel, they have to pay for it, and they have to recoup that cost. The addition of a new channel might attract new subscribers, and if they do not add the channel, some subscribers might leave. DirecTV also knows that if the addition of the new channel causes DirecTV to increase the price, some existing subscribers will leave. It is all about balance. How much does DirecTV stand to lose if it does not carry the channel, how much does DirecTV stand to gain if it does carry the channel, and how much does the channel cost DirecTV. If the gain minus the cost is not more than the loss if they do not carry the channel, the channel has no value to DirecTV, even if it has value to some customers or potential customers.
Just chiming in as a FiOS customer with Epix - I love the channel. Has a lot of movies unavailable on any other premiums and the On Demand library is good as well. The two Epix HD channels come bundled in my base package, so I find of solid value.
That "base" package would be the highest bundled packaged Fios has. Epix is an add on until you get to the top package.
I, too, like the channel. I have it as well, as an add on.
If they add it than it had enough value to DirecTV. If they subsequently remove it than it didn't have enough value to DirecTV.
If DirecTV never adds the channel and they lose money/customers because of it it was still the correct decision. If DirecTV adds the channel and loses the bandwidth, it gets minimal subscribers, and the quality of their content diminishes over time it was still the correct decision.
95% of your posts can be summed up as follows:
Just copy and paste that for all 80 of your posts a day. It saves everyone time, including the moderators because at least that post wouldn't be reported because it's neither rude or sarcastic.
At least I have been discussing the topic rather than stooping to personal attacks. Do you have anything to add to the discussion?
BTW, I only average just over three posts a day.
No, that was all thanks.
That's what I thought.
If only it were that simple.
I submit that the drop in popularity of the conventional plexes has more to do with their lack of hot movies combined with the relatively long delays in getting them shown and the fact that most of the also-ran movies they play are just plain done. Most of HBOs latest offerings are around a year old.
Epix offers quite a few exciting "first run" movies as well as some decent standards while skipping most of the boring interstitials about the making of this or that original series (Starz seems certifiably insane about advertising their original series at least twice between every feature). Showtime hypes that daylights out of Californication. HBO seems all about Enlightenment at this time.
It is that simple.
so let me ask just the basic question. IS EPIX COMING TO D* or not?
I doubt it. They've turned it down at least twice now and nothing has changed.
If Directv TV went by value when deciding what to carry and what not to there would be very little left on their lineup. The average basic cable channel has way too may repeats and commercials, and the average premium has a lot of repeats as well. I see that this week AMC is showing the same movie two times in a row for three consecutive nights. That's ridiculous. I want more variety in my programming than that.
As my daughter told me, "Dad, you're not the target audience for this show"
I'm not being glib, but if you really want Epix and you are upset about sports, why don't you just switch to Dish?