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Epix to Directv?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by fkubick, Jan 20, 2013.

  1. Feb 6, 2013 #341 of 423
    Beerstalker

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    Call it $10 for Epix as a standalone, $9 with one other premium, $8 with two others, $7 with 3 others, and $6 if you get 4 premiums, and $5 if you get them all (HBO, Cinemax, Starz, Showtime, Sportspack). DirecTV already discounts premiums like this already, so it wouldn't be out of the ordinary. That would cut that 40% penetration down quite a bit, probably down to around 25-30% which I think would be reasonable.
     
  2. Feb 6, 2013 #342 of 423
    harsh

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    And I'm guessing that you prefer to pay extra for for and eat grenades?
     
  3. Feb 6, 2013 #343 of 423
    tonyd79

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    Maybe. I just think directv has more data and has given it more thought than we have. They could've made a mistake but I will take their judgment over mine or any one else's here.
     
  4. Feb 6, 2013 #344 of 423
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    Doubt it because they could give it to everyone on a 10 year deal for 20 cents a month.

    At $2 per month, they'd only need 10% sales to make their money back.

    At $10 only 2%.

    If they thought they couldn't sell it to that few, then it really is trash.
     
  5. Feb 6, 2013 #345 of 423
    harsh

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    You make it sound as though such a link is incredibly easy to find. How fair is it to not give a date range and expect someone to listen to several hours of conference calls (ten or eleven of them) when the claimed statement may not even be there???

    It is just plain mean and abusive you've collectively set diamondlt on a snipe hunt listening to conference calls where transcripts are readily available on seekingalpha.com.

    The burden of proof is a heavy one and here it seems to rest with the person who calls BS on the apologist party line.
     
  6. Feb 6, 2013 #346 of 423
    tonyd79

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    Or he can believe people who have no reason to lie to him.

    All this prove it crap Is crap.

    Plus he is the one who made claims.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2013 #347 of 423
    harsh

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    Being caught in a lie is an exceedingly popular reason to try to lie one's way out of something they said (or threw their support behind).
    What is crap is making claims that are false or taken out of context and insisting that they must be the gospel truth without providing a shred of supporting documentation.
     
  8. Feb 6, 2013 #348 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Who are you accusing of doing that?
     
  9. Feb 6, 2013 #349 of 423
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    I still don't get your reasoning. You make it sound as if HBO and its copycats depend on org. programming to fill their hours of programming needs. Just look at any 24-hour block of their programming and the primary source of programs are "movies". Not the handful of org. programs. How many times can one watch the reruns of their org. programming.
     
  10. Feb 6, 2013 #350 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Their original programming dominates their prime viewing blocks and their marketing. It has become their meal ticket. You may not understand it, but things are the way they are.
     
  11. Feb 6, 2013 #351 of 423
    James Long

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    It is more of "what is the difference" between movie channel providers. They all have movies ... often it seems that they all have the same movies, or at least take turns having them. It begs the question of why one would need to subscribe to all four movie packages when one would do. The answer comes in the form of what is in the library (who has what movies when) and other content. HBO and Showtime, the original movie channels, have added additional programming that is unique to their channels.

    The opinion that ALL movie channels need original programming to make them worthwhile is part of the debate. Epix tries to be set apart by having their distributor's movies before the other movie channel providers. They also buy some non-movie content to air. They may not be another HBO or Showtime, but who needs another HBO or Showtime?

    Epix has their own uniqueness. Copying someone else's is not needed.

    Do you remember when AMC was a movie channel? Now they are best known for a few original programs. I am glad to see Epix be a movie channel package.
     
  12. Feb 6, 2013 #352 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Yes, they reinvented themselves and became relevant again. Epix came along and adopted a format that had already wisely been abandoned by others.
     
  13. Feb 6, 2013 #353 of 423
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    Where is your push for DIRECTV to remove Sony Movie Channel and MGMHD considering they "came along and adopted a format that had already wisely been abandoned by others"?
     
  14. Feb 6, 2013 #354 of 423
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    Neither are in the same rate league as Epix. Regardless, I have never called for any channel to be removed. They obviously saw an opportunity to strengthen a product, the HD Extra Pack, and made business decision to do so. DirecTV didn't see any value in adding Epix in 2009 and declined to do so again last year. What has the Epix team done to increase their value to providers?
     
  15. Feb 6, 2013 #355 of 423
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    Do you think that the addition of Shorts strengthened the HD Extra Pack?
     
  16. Feb 6, 2013 #356 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    Only those within DirecTV's ranks who have access to the appropriate data know that. They don't make rash decisions however. They would have done their homework before agreeing to it. I can't imagine it is an expensive channel to carry however.
     
  17. Feb 6, 2013 #357 of 423
    James Long

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    The question was what is your opinion. You seem to have formed a strong opinion against Epix on DirecTV without access to DirecTV's or Epix's data. What is your opinion on Shorts?
     
  18. Feb 6, 2013 #358 of 423
    Hoosier205

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    I have posted my reply already James.
     
  19. Feb 6, 2013 #359 of 423
    James Long

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    Your reply did not include your opinion on the channel. But that is OK.
    Based on previous posts you don't seem to care one way or the other about Shorts.
    You do seem to care a lot about the carriage (or not) of Epix.
     
  20. Feb 6, 2013 #360 of 423
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    Oh, so it was never really about content like you've posted a dozen times. It's about the price. Well stick to that line of "reasoning"...

    You seemed to support the removal of NASCAR Hot Pass AFTER it was removed. I'm sure it was difficult for everyone to believe considering you are known to rarely defend every decision DIRECTV makes.

    And if DirecTV adds Epix then what? Will you delete your 20 posts about how Epix is not worth it? I can see the post now "DirecTV added Epix because they saw value in it and made a business decision to do so. It was obviously the correct decision."

    Broken record...
     

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