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Epix to Directv?

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#1 ·
I just saw this article posted 1/3/13 in HomeMedia magazine. Don't know if it has already been posted here. It sounds like Directv has acquired the rights to air Epix.

"Effective Feb. 7 DirecTV will raise subscription rates by an average of 4.5%, pointing to higher programming costs for the increases.

In 2013, the programming fees we pay to the owners of these television channels will increase about 8%, but DirecTV is adjusting the prices our customers pay on average about 4.5%,” the pay-TV operator said in a statement. “By holding firm in programming negotiations, we have been able to keep price increases below our cable competitors.”

During July 2012 Viacom channels went dark for 10 days on DirecTV during a dispute over carriage fees, where Viacom had been seeking a 30% increase in fees. The agreement gave DirecTV the option to add the Epix pay-TV channel, which is co-owned by Paramount, MGM and Lionsgate, and gave DirecTV users access to Viacom channels via tablets, laptops and other devices."
 
#77 ·
damondlt;3174951 said:
The only reason you even care is because Directv doesn't have it, and you feel you have to make up some excuse on why they are smarted for not having EPIX.

That it. Just another excuse to try and defend directv.

Again over nothing!
I've haven't been a fan of the Network since it was was first created. Before anyone was announced as a carrier. I've been consistent in my comments about it all along. DirecTV isn't getting "smarted" for it either. It has very low viewership compared to other premiums.
 
#79 ·
damondlt;3174952 said:
Prove it!
Just look at the viewers and/or critical acclaim being drawn towards the original programming.

The Newsroom
Veep
Girls
Life's Too Short
Enlightened
Game of Thrones
Boardwalk Empire
Treme
Eastbound & Down
True Blood
Curb Your Enthusiasm
24/7 Series
Real Time with Bill Maher
Hard Knocks Series
Boxing After Dark
Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel
HBO World Championship Boxing
Strike Back
Transporter: The Series
Hunted
Banshee
Spartacus
Magic City
Dexter
Shameless
The Borgias
Homeland
Californication
Nurse Jackie
The Big C
Episodes
Web Therapy
House of Lies
Showtime Championship Boxing
ShoBox: The New Generation
Inside the NFL
ShoMMA
The Franchise
Jim Rome on Showtime

Those are just the currently airing programs.
 
#80 ·
Hoosier205 said:
I've haven't been a fan of the Network since it was was first created. Before anyone was announced as a carrier. I've been consistent in my comments about it all along. DirecTV isn't getting "smarted" for it either. It has very low viewership compared to other premiums.
OK based on the fact that Epix is only 3 years old, and not 30 like the rest of the premiums, also not carried yet by every provider while the others are.
That tends to keep the numbers down. That common sence.

You don't need to pay a premium for an original series, every network and their mother have plenty each. And all of these non premiums series rank way higher the most of the premium channel Garbage.

HBO has about 3 worth anything, The rest nothing IMO

To have a movie channel with nothing but movies is a rare breed.
 
#82 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Just look at the viewers and/or critical acclaim being drawn towards the original programming.

Girls

Boardwalk Empire

Real Time with Bill Maher

HBO World Championship Boxing

Spartacus

Dexter

Nurse Jackie

Showtime Championship Boxing

Inside the NFL

Those are just the currently airing programs.
That doesn't mean they are good quaility ranking shows.

Of this list I deleted the crap.
 
#83 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Even AMC now relies more on their original programming, rather than movies.
My piont exactly, You don't need to spend money on premiums for original series.
But you do need to for movies.
 
#84 ·
damondlt;3174962 said:
HBO has about 3 worth anything, The rest nothing IMO
Three in your opinion, but there are more than three that are highly successful.

damondlt;3174962 said:
To have a movie channel with nothing but movies is a rare breed.
A dying breed. The others jumped ship long ago and went with the market. EPIX tried to fill a void and it turned out there wasn't much of a want.
 
#86 ·
HinterXGames said:
I've never seen/heard of Epix prior to the Viacom issue. Hence, why I was asking about it. You should try toning down your attitude when someone is simply asking questions about the type of programming a channel may/may not have.
Sorry if my writing is too loud and offensive too you.:hurah::hurah:
 
#87 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Again, in you opinion. Many of the programs you deleted from the list have done very well.
Again I said prove it, and all you did was through up a list of shows.
 
#88 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Three in your opinion, but there are more than three that are highly successful.

A dying breed. The others jumped ship long ago and went with the market. EPIX tried to fill a void and it turned out there wasn't much of a want.
Prove it!
 
#89 ·
damondlt;3174966 said:
My piont exactly, You don't need to spend money on premiums for original series.
But you do need to for movies.
Not if the original series you want is on a premium. Other networks moved towards original programming when their movie formula stopped working. EPIX swooped in like a VHS manufacturer offering a product in the heyday of DVD. A day late and a dollar short.
 
#90 ·
You know you have the option if Directv decided to carry Epix to not subscribe.
Right!

So why do you care at all about what customers who don't have the option want?
 
#91 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Not of the original series you want is on a premium. Other networks moved towards original programming when their movie formula stopped working. .
Yep, and if they don't care about Original programming , then why does it matter?

Movies didn't stop working, The nextworks you speak so highly of have a movie library so enormus, but yet choose to only play the same 50 movies day after day after day. Who wants that?

But these networks also play the same Series over and over day after day for 9 months out of the year as well.

How many Boardwalk empire series repeats do I have to watch over and over untill september? This is an $18 per month channel. And this what we get.
 
#93 ·
Hoosier205;3174978 said:
Just because a customer doesn't subscribe to a premium, it doesn't mean it isn't costing them something.
Epix has been rumored to want $1 to $1.50 per subscriber and placement in Choice package and above. Which probably equals around $16-$24 million per month ($192-$288 million per year).

D* is probably looking at it from the point of view of how many subscribers are we losing for not carrying this channel? Probably not enough to warrant that cost.

I've read surveys that show what compels people to add premium channels are the original series, followed by movies. So the series do matter...
 
#94 ·
Yeah, that is the rumor. But in the face of that rumor is that it isn't offered that way with any other service that I'm aware of.

On Dish Epix is either paid as a standalone mini-Premium or inside their BB@Home package which is similar to HDExtra on D*, but with way more channels. And it seems to be doing pretty well on Dish if comments about the BB@Home and Epix in Dish discussions are any indicator.

So why would they only want D* to have it as part of a base package? Just seems at odds.
 
#95 ·
Hoosier205 said:
Just because a customer doesn't subscribe to a premium, it doesn't mean it isn't costing them something.
Same goes with everything else, but I have to pay for something you like, Right?

Yea thats what I thought.:rolleyes:
 
#96 ·
Justin23 said:
Epix has been rumored to want $1 to $1.50 per subscriber and placement in Choice package and above. Which probably equals around $16-$24 million per month ($192-$288 million per year).

D* is probably looking at it from the point of view of how many subscribers are we losing for not carrying this channel? Probably not enough to warrant that cost.

I've read surveys that show what compels people to add premium channels are the original series, followed by movies. So the series do matter...
Get off it! How about NFL ST? Thats a huge bill passed on 19 million customers for just less then 2 million subscribers. Oh but i'm sure that doesn't count right!:rolleyes:
 
#97 ·
lparsons21;3174995 said:
So why would they only want D* to have it as part of a base package? Just seems at odds.
The question is...why should D* add it if they are doing fine without it?

And Epix probably wants to be in a base package so they can increase their subs. The latest numbers I saw has them at around 10 million subs. The closest to them is Showtime with about 21 million.
 
#99 ·
damondlt;3175001 said:
Get off it! How about NFL ST? Thats a huge bill passed on 19 million customers for just less then 2 million subscribers. Oh but i'm sure that doesn't count right!:rolleyes:
Actually it's not as bad as you think. D* pays the NFL $1 billion per year under the current agreement. There's approximately 3 million subs (residential & commercial) that have NFLST. When you do the math that's only $333 per subscriber. Considering that commercial NFLST is way more than that, I imagine they either break even or make some money from having it.
 
#101 ·
Justin23 said:
Actually it's not as bad as you think. D* pays the NFL $1 billion per year under the current agreement. There's approximately 3 million subs (residential & commercial) that have NFLST. When you do the math that's only $333 per subscriber. Considering that commercial NFLST is way more than that, I imagine they either break even or make some money from having it.
Sure they make money, cause when they don't they just raise the Price.
 
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