Equipment advice

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by kram, Mar 4, 2016.

  1. Mar 4, 2016 #1 of 16
    kram

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    So here's my current set up:
    • SlimLine w/SWM-16
    • HR44-700 w/Samsung UN55HU8550 UHD 4K TV
    • HR24-200 w/Samsung HDTV
    • HR24-100 w/Samsung HDTV
    Since I don't want to do RVU, what configuration would I need to add a C61K 4K Genie mini? Do I need to swap one of the DVRs? Should I get an HR54?

    Any advice is welcome.

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  2. Mar 4, 2016 #2 of 16
    Drucifer

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    The C61K for 4K live only works with the HR54 because it has extra tuners for 4K live broadcast.
     
  3. Mar 4, 2016 #3 of 16
    carl6

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    You can get a C61K right now, and use it with the HR44. The HR54 does have the capability to use bonded transponders, which we speculate is how DirecTV will stream live 4K when there is enough to worry about. There isn't right now, and it is possible right now to stream 4K to an HR44 as well as an HR54, as they are not using any bonded (paired) transponders at this time.

    At such time as they offer 4K service and you subscribe to it, if you need an HR54 I'm sure there will be a process by which to get one.
     
  4. Mar 6, 2016 #4 of 16
    kram

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    So, when 4K from D* becomes a reality, what equipment/configuration would be best? Thanks.


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  5. Mar 6, 2016 #5 of 16
    NR4P

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    I thought the Carl6's post answered that as clear as possible given the speculation.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2016 #6 of 16
    peds48

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    Ordering a C61K now will trigger a Genie swap for an HR54 or will require an HR54 if no current Genie is installed. 4K products will be install only with HR54 going forward


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  7. Mar 6, 2016 #7 of 16
    kram

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    Thank you, peds48. Carl6 lost me with bonded transponders. You answered my question.


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  8. Mar 6, 2016 #8 of 16
    Delroy E Walleye

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    Curious if this will also require an LNB replacement, or is the OP setup (SL-5/SWiM16) going to be adequate?...
     
  9. Mar 6, 2016 #9 of 16
    carl6

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    Sorry kram. In the future (don't know when), we expect DirecTV to use two paired transponders on the satellite to send 4K programming. That pairing is referred to as bonding, or bonded transponders. As far as we know, the HR54 is the only current product that is capable of receiving/using signals from paired, or bonded, transponders. peds48 is in a position to know what the current installation policies are, and his information helped clarify what to expect. Basically all I was saying (trying to say) was that sooner or later, for 4K, you would need an HR54. The part about bonded transponders was why you would need one. What I did not know is that it is current policy to install an HR54 for any 4K installation. Good info.
     
  10. Bill Broderick

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    My question to kram is whether the loss of two recordable tuners would cause a problem in his household? I have the same configuration of receivers (however, I don't have a 4K TV yet). I wouldn't want to lose the DVR, nor pay for an extra receiver if I decided to keep both DVR's and add a C61K.

    Until there is "real" 4K programming available on DirecTV that I wanted to watch, I'd probably wait to see whether DirecTV releases a Genie (or some something else) that supports 4K to the TV, but doesn't require a tunerless client (with an additional cost).
     
  11. kram

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    Bill: Believe it or not, I do currently use all nine tuners! This is one of the reasons I didn't want to go the RVU route. But I'm still a bit confused about whether all you need to get future 4K programming is an HR54, or if you also need the C61 clients.


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  12. bobnielsen

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    In addition to the HR54, you will need either a RVU TV or a C61K in order to display 2160p. There is also a high likelihood that you will need a LNB with reverse-band capability. There have been some of these LNBs released in a few test locations and they have also shown up on e-bay . These have a 21-channel integral digital SWiM (which should take care of your tuner limits).
     
  13. Bill Broderick

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    Me too. That's the problem. The HR54 will allow you to receive 4K programming via satellite (you can only download 4K programming with the HR44. But, it doesn't output 4K video directly to the TV without RVU or a C61K, both of which will require an extra receiver fee.
     
  14. codespy

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    Hmmm......I got a 4K TV last fall, and just had my HR34 replaced for a HR44 not long ago. So ordering a C61K will not fulfill all my live 4K wants as I previously hoped.

    In addition, if i want live 4K, I will lose the caller ID feature on my Genie...........bummer. I guess I won't get too comfortable and record a lot on my 44. Thanks for the info.
     
  15. inkahauts

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    I am pretty sure they will swap that genie to an hr54 when people get 4K clients now...
     
  16. HoTat2

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    Yes, that's the new installation policy now I understand.

    To get a C61K any existing Genie, HR34, H44+HDD, or HR44, must be swapped out for an HR54.

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