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eSATA capacity questions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Rich, Nov 30, 2008.

  1. Rich

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    Yes, that "Available" meter is about as accurate as a gas gauge in a car. You've got to put a bit more than he has on the hard drive to get a good feel for it. He'll see about 400 hrs of MPEG4.

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  2. Rich

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    Tom, you didn't tell me the name of the Seagate drive.

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  3. Tom Z

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    Rich, it's a Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST31500341AS 1.5TB. It keeps locking, so I pulled it out and went back to the internal. I see that you mentioned that the 100 series of HR's are usually the most problematic. Is is worth going to a retailer and buying another HR?
     
  4. dminches

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    Did you upgrade the firmware on the drive before using it? The Seagate 1.5 TB drives have serious issues, some of which are partially resolved by upgrading the firmware. Video locking is a common problem with these drives. What firmware is the drive using?
     
  5. Rich

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    Aw, nutz. I had hoped it was another model. I've got two 1TB Cudas in MX-1s and they work perfectly. Now, that would leave me to believe it's the HR.

    I live in Central NJ, and I can't find anything but HR22-100s anywhere. I'd try Seagate again and try to force the issue. We all know that they had some problems with some model number hard drives (both of my 1TBs are those model number drives, but since they work, I haven't done anything with them), and perhaps they can do something. Perhaps a replacement hard drive might work.

    Or you could call D* and get a replacement. That's usually a terrible experience. You never know what you're gonna get. I have the Protection Plan and I have resolved that if another HR fails, I will deactivate it and purchase a new one. I realize I'll lose the money I paid for the deactivated HR, but I'd rather do that then go thru "replacement roulette" again.

    Even if you get a replacement hard drive from Seagate, they are not gonna send it to you until they thoroughly test the returned hard drive and if it tests out good, you're gonna get it back.

    Perhaps a used 20-700 or a 21-700 on eBay?

    Please, let us know what you do and what the outcome of your actions are.

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  6. Rich

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    That's what I've been talking about, but his 1.5 is not one of the model numbers that Seagate published regarding firmware. I'd still try to get Seagate to do something.

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  7. veryoldschool

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    Rich, is that really true with Seagate?

    I just had an old drive replaced. I paid the $20 for express service and they sent me a repaired drive, and shipping label for the return.

    I thought they'd have made me jump through more hoops, but it was under warranty, and I could have sent the drive in and waited for a replacement [shipping costs one-way] or paid $20 [basically shipping both ways, along with my credit card in case I didn't return one].

    [BTW: it did resolve a very strange problem that none of their software would find]
     
  8. dminches

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    It is my understanding that there is only 1 version of the 1.5 TB drive and that everyone is defective. Those of us who use these drives in our NAS enclosures have been dealing with this issue since day 1.
     
  9. Rich

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    I don't know for sure, but his drive is relatively new and every time I have sent a drive in that I was convinced was bad, I got it back with a message that said it was fine and had to pay the shipping both ways. With such a new drive, I would think they would run a diagnostic test on it and if it came out OK, he'd get it back. Be interesting to see what happens.

    If I had to pick a device that I thought was the problem, you know I'd pick the 100 every time. I did PM him and offer to put it in an Antec enclosure and see if it happened on one of my 21-700s. At least that way, he'd have some idea of what to do. If the drive works on my 21-700, that would make me question the functionality of the 100 he's using.

    That was with an old drive. Somehow, maybe (probably) I'm wrong. But a new drive?

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  10. Rich

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    If there is only 1 Seagate drive that has the 1.5TB capacity, and I can't find another one, wouldn't that be the same 1.5 that I have in my two 1.5TB Xtreme eSATAs? They work perfectly. Not trying to argue, just to learn. Obviously you've got more experience with them than I do.

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  11. veryoldschool

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    It had two years left on its five year warranty, but had been "problematic" right out of the box. [you know the type of problem: you put together a $2k PC and it's buggy from the start. You run every type of test and everything comes back "OK". Then you start swapping out parts. Finally you pull the drive and run it in another PC for six months, before this one has any problems]
     
  12. dminches

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    I have 4 of them in my ReadyNAS+ and haven't had any problems with them either although I am using them for audio, not video. However, a good portion of them have been problematic.
     
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    I have ordered a HR23-700 from ValueElectronics. When it comes in, intend to swap out an HR20-700 that has a eSata external drive attached to it with the HR23 and keep the eSata to go with the HR23. There will no programs left on the external drive when I do this. I ASSUME that since there will no programs on the eSata, I will have the entire drive available to use. Is that true?

    Thanks.
     
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    You series links will still work and your recordings will show but you will not be able to play them. They are married to the unit the are recorded on so you will need to delete them.
     
  15. Rich

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    Huh. Wouldn't consider that drive that old. Maybe Seagate is better about replacing it's drives than other manufacturers.

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    Oh, that's good to hear. From reading about them, I got the impression that the problem was really wide spread. So those Xtremes I have have the same Cuda 1.5 in them?

    I talked to a tech at Seagate the other day and he was really interested in what worked and didn't work with the HRs. They seem to be trying to satisfy each DVR maker and need info.

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    Yup.

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  18. veryoldschool

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    [my point in posting] :)
     
  19. Rich

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    After thinking about it, the problems I had returning drives was not with manufacturers, but with sites that sent me large drives for my TiVos. I had one drive in a TiVo that sounded like a typewriter and that came back to me as perfect. I don't think I ever tried to return one to a manufacturer.

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  20. ME n My HTPC

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    Ck drive stats... Drives are declared more than users ability to run...I believe the storage capacity is determined before firmware and formatting is performed... Suck's doesn't it!
     

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