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eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Apr 4, 2012 #2001 of 3467
    eddiesudz

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    Well..... I might be a bit hasty with ordering up this nice looking case. Upon reading the user reviews I read the following....

    Overall, I'm very impressed with the two enclosures I purchased for add-on storage drives for DVRs. Like some have already mentioned, the blue power LED is too bright, but not a big deal.

    One design issue (not a flaw, but something others may find pertinent) is that the power buttons are electronic (momentary contact switches), so there's not an actual hardwired on/off switch. Rather, you push the power button, and the small circuit board decides whether the drive should be on or off. This is a very common switch in today's electronics, and usually no big deal. Anyway, in my application (DVR), I ran into a problem when there was a power outage. When power was restored, the Macally enclosure stayed powered off, so when the DVR rebooted and couldn't find the external drive, it reverted to using the internal drive. With my particular brand of DVR, it uses either the internal drive OR the external drive (not both simultaneously), so I lost a few days of recordings, since the current recording schedule was contained on the external drive. Even though I like this enclosure, I'll eventually be purchasing other ones with mechanical switches once I find one with the right price and design.

    So, product-wise, great product. But be aware of your intended application. If the enclosure is not powered by a UPS, and needs to be running at all times, you may want to find an enclosure that has a mechanical power switch, or at least has some way to config to "return to last state upon loss of power"
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    I may want to go back to the Antec to be safe... Hate to have to worry about checking to see if the drive is powered up.....

    Am I being too paranoid?
     
  2. Apr 5, 2012 #2002 of 3467
    P Smith

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    I wouldn't hesitate open it and make my own modifications: first I would bypass internal controller totally (!); secondary - it will happen by first mod, the HDD will be power directly from PS (ie no control by 'removed' eg disabled controller board).
     
  3. Apr 5, 2012 #2003 of 3467
    eddiesudz

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    Hmm... that's an interesting option. One that I might have a more electronically inclined friend to tackle for me. Do you think there's any advantage of installing a manual power switch to power the drive down or is it the same as unplugging the power supply?
     
  4. Apr 5, 2012 #2004 of 3467
    P Smith

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    I would bypass it for such critical configuration (DTV DVR) - you always could disconnect the power jack on back of the enclosure or pull its plug (it it have external power brick).
     
  5. Apr 5, 2012 #2005 of 3467
    eddiesudz

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    Ok..... I will order one up and have the switch bypassed and let's see how it performs!
     
  6. Apr 6, 2012 #2006 of 3467
    kingram52

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  7. Apr 6, 2012 #2007 of 3467
    P Smith

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    It's active cooling enclosure, so - no worry about 7200 RPM drives.

    Since no one post a review of it for DVR companion, you'll be the first. Don't forget to tell us.
     
  8. Apr 6, 2012 #2008 of 3467
    Rich

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    Some folks bought them and had success with them. Haven't seen anything about them recently tho. Don't know what that means.

    I'd still rather have the TT docking station, just an opinion.

    Rich
     
  9. Apr 6, 2012 #2009 of 3467
    kingram52

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    Thanks, that one you are using seems pretty handy with swapping drives in and out. Would be good for storing a movie collection.
     
  10. Apr 6, 2012 #2010 of 3467
    P Smith

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    That's is convenience of the BlacX dock what been helpful for IT tasks before and for DTV and dish DVRs and modded receivers [411/211/211k] now.
     
  11. bflora

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    Yesterday I was doing some cleaning and accidentally unplugged the esata cable from my hr20-700 going to a wd my dvr expander 1tb drive. I unplugged the hr20, reconnected the drive and restarted the hr20. It tried to format the external drive but failed after a while. I tried this twice with the same result. I then restarted the hr20 without the external drive and it reformatted the internal drive. Any suggestions on "fixing" the wd external drive. I see they cost a lot more now than when I bought it in 2009.
     
  12. Rich

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    Try this: Unplug the power cords of the HR and the WD eSATA. Make sure your eSATA to eSATA jumper cable is securely placed in the ports of the HR and the eSATA. Now power up the WD eSATA box. Give it a chance to spin up and then plug in the HR. If that doesn't work, you might have blown the chips in the eSATA.

    If nothing works, pull the HDD out of the WD box and buy an external device and put the HDD in that. I've had the same problems you have now several times. The problem was always the external device and not the HDD in the external device. I'd suggest this if it gets to the point where nothing else works. This is a link to the external device I use.

    Rich
     
  13. nsolot

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    That part raises an eyebrow for me. Seems to me that something is funky with the box if it reformatted the internal drive. After formatting the internal drive, did the box work? If so, then a new external setup should work.

    If the old external device has been in service 3-4 years, that may be all you can realistically expect from it. I was just going to start a new thread on that topic.
     
  14. Rich

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    We've been telling folks that for some time now. The thing to tell folks is that, altho the external device might be shot, the HDD probably isn't. A new external device for the old HDD usually solves the problem. And you don't lose your programs.

    Rich
     
  15. BAHitman

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    Until you try a new enclosure, you will never know if the drive is dead or the enclosure. Alternatively, you can put the drive in a PC and use the manufacturers diagnostic tool (dlgdiag for WD drives) to test it before buying a new enclosure...
     
  16. bflora

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    Yes the hr20-700 seems to be working ok now with the internal drive. My guess is since I accidentally unplugged the esata cable while the receiver was working, it screwed things up enough to require a reformatting.
     
  17. Rich

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    Easier just to put a new external device on the setup and see if that works. It's usually worked for me. I keep an extra TT docking station just for that purpose. Takes a couple minutes to see if the external device is shot. I treat HDDs like car batteries, if they don't work correctly, I buy a new one immediately. Hasn't happened to me in years.

    Rich
     
  18. RonH

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    I already had the BlacX SATA holder that I use for my Computer so I decided to order the WD 2 TB HD from Amazon that was mentioned a few Post back. I got a couple of questions. After I have setup my DVR to run the External Drive when I want to go back to Internal Drive can I just Turn OFF the DVR,unplug the External Drive and then Turn DVR back ON or do I have to completely Power OFF the DVR and let it Reboot to get Internal Hard Access back? And Secondly,say I have recorded some Shows on the External Drive and I have went back to watch some show on my Internal Drive. When I plug the External Drive back in and Reboot will the DVR re format the External Drive and I will lose any shows I have recorded on the External?

    Thanks
     
  19. Rich

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    You have to reboot every time you switch drives.

    You shouldn't lose any content going back and forth on the drives. Note that word "shouldn't". I have read quite a few posts about HRs reformatting drives when they shouldn't. It does happen, never happened to me, but it's kinda hard to ignore all those posts that say the same thing about the poster having his HDD reformatted when booting up.

    Rich
     
  20. RonH

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    Thanks
     

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