eSATA - DIRECTV recommended list

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. dazed&confuzed

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    What enclosure are you using with the 4 Tb?
    I currently have a Black-X dock on my Genie but the specs say that the max supported is 2 TB
    I have a 6 Tb WD red drive on the way
     
  2. buist

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    Dazed and Confuzed:

    I have a 4TB WD Green drive that is working fine with a Black-X. There may be different firmware or hardware versions of the Black-X, but in my case it works perfectly fine.

    Thanks,
    Tim
     
  3. dazed&confuzed

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    Thanks!
    I checked on the Thermaltake web site, it now states:
    "Supports all 2.5" & 3.5" SATA I/II/III hard drives in ALL Capacities"
    Although most of the resellers still show 2 Tb as max capacity even though the part numbers are the same.
    I'll give it a go.
    Now to reread the "Removing/Replacing/Copying Hard Drive of HR2* Receiver [Photo Tutorial]" thread and brush up on my Linux skills.
     
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  4. Rich

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    This has been happening with TT docks and devices since we started using them. The only way to tell is to use them.

    Rich
     
  5. dazed&confuzed

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    Understand, I'll report back when (or if) I get the drive up and running.
    MT
     
  6. Rich

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    Thing is, how do you tell if you have a...say a 4TB drive in the dock and how do you know it's functioning at 4TBs instead of 3TBs? There's really no way to tell without putting the HDD on a computer and...I really don't know how you'd go about finding an answer. RunnerFL could probably tell us...

    Rich
     
  7. P Smith

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    Anyone who would install ex2fs driver under Windows, could check size of partitions the DVR's drive. Or load/use any Linux to check the HDD.
     
  8. dazed&confuzed

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    Thought I would follow the instructions on copy/replacing a hard drive and then check it with Acronis True Image. It will be interesting to see if it can see the partition.
    If not I'll boot Ubuntu on my system and see if the entire disk is partitioned or I have a media server running NAS4Free and I'll hook it up to that.
    MT
     
  9. RunnerFL

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    The OS would report the partitions and sizes.
     
  10. RunnerFL

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    You don't need a driver at all. In fact I'd advise against installing one. If you're using Windows you can see the partitions and their sizes in the drive manager and with OS X you can see them in the Drive Utility. If you install drivers that allow you to read/write the data, as you suggest, you run the risk of messing things up.
     
  11. P Smith

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    by default it's RO access
     
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    CBNAX

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    New to this form but i have been reading post for quite a while now.
    In the last few post the 4TB drive has been mentioned but most of you have stated your using a dock for it instead of just a plug and play configuration from the drive enclosure to the Genie( HR34.) I ask because I bought a drive from DVRDaddy for this purpose and while it installed great, it froze my DVR up after 10 minutes of playing. I tried resetting this 3 times and it froze in 5 min the subsequent times. I packed it up and sent it back. But if reading this last post correctly the WD 4TB red drive or green drive should work, correct?
     
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    CBNAX

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    I checked on Amazon for the Thermaltake dock and while there are a number of people that rave about it, there are also a number of reports of the dock stop working in 1-3 months. In all of the post I have read on here, no one has ever mentioned the BlackX dock stop working. I realize its mechanical and all mechanical things can fail but just curios if any of you have had to replace the dock?
     
  14. Jan 1, 2016 #3194 of 3597
    P Smith

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    Could be, if you will use it as workbench during developing SW for get/put info to different drives, inserting & removing to/from the dock;

    totally different usage for DVR - you did insert HDD once and there are no more mechanical actions.

    Actually, you should relay to the forum reports/review - this is relevant info for you. As you never know what people doing with the dock on other forums/sites.
     
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    RunnerFL

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    The biggest problem with the dock is the power button. While using it on your Genie you won't be powering it on and off so the power button going bad really isn't an issue.
     
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    Rich

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    Yup, the red drive or green (now blue) drives should work. I'd stay away from those all-in-one eSATA devices. Lots of problems reported over the years with them.

    Rich
     
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    Rich

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    I've posted about this many times in several of the overly long eSATA threads. I don't expect anyone to actually read all the posts on those threads, too many, too confusing and as you go back the threads are filled with outdated information. But to address your question: Yeah, they do fail. Like most of the external devices they're cheap to buy and cheaply made and their performance suffers from the cheapness. The TT docks have always had one glaring weakness, the on/off button. Simple way to deal it? Don't use it. Use it and you'll find your dock will go dead when the button fails. I've had this happen several times. And to top off the problem, you can't jump the switch out so that it stays in the on position all the time (I couldn't figure out how to do it, anyway.) If you have to shut the dock down, pull the power cord rather than using the on/off switch.

    Aside from the on/off switch, there is the problem of seating the HDD properly. Use a flashlight and examine the connector inside the dock. You can easily see how to properly seat the HDD. Put more simply, you can't just drop the HDD in the dock and expect it to work, the HDD needs to be securely seated. If you can easily lift the HDD out of the dock, you're not seating it correctly. You should expect the dock and HDD to be locked and if the HDD is lifted the dock should follow the HDD.

    Once you get a dock working you can expect many hours of use from it. They really don't just fail.

    Hope that answers your question. We've always recommended the docks because of their simplicity. Other devices (also cheap) have fans in them and that's just another point of failure. I've never had an HDD adversely affected by a dock, no dust buildup, no heat issues.

    Rich
     
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    CBNAX

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    Thank you very much for the feedback. I'll be ordering the TT dock and the WD drive today from Amazon and get my Genie expanded.
     
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    Rich

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    Please let us know how you make out.

    Rich
     
  20. Jan 5, 2016 #3200 of 3597
    CBNAX

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    HI guys . I am happy to report that I got the TT dock and the WD red 4TB drive and all is working well. One thing I didn't realize and for any one else ordering it, is that the dock comes with a eSATA cable. I bought one that I currently don't need but will keep it because who knows I might upgrade my HR20 as well. Special thanks to Rich for all of your input.
     
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