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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Feb 9, 2018 #3561 of 3597
    6ft8incyclist

    6ft8incyclist New Member

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    I have the Genie2.. I had lot of problems with it a while back.. Dtv sent a big update to it and now my eStata port no longer works.. I just got off the phone with Dtv and Angie the CSR confirmed that Dtv had disabled all eStata on the Genies.. WTF I am not happy!!!!!!!!
     
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    JerryMeeker

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    That would be a surprise to me—I continue to use an external eSATA with my HR54, and I am on the latest software.
     
  3. P Smith

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    WTF - you are spreading nonsense ?
    It was pointed here MANY TIMES (!!!) - CSR is technically useless employees !
     
  4. NewDTVguy

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    New member here who just wanted to thank everyone for previous posts which helped me set up my external drive for a new HR54. Everything went great - recording the olympics now. After reviewing several DBS threads I settled on a 4TB seagate seahawk surveillance drive with a startech dock. Was going to go with a WD nas red nas drive but read several comments that nas drives are better suited to handing smaller file sizes in servers and seagate actually performed better on tests handling video files. I was leary about the Startech dock (U33EBV) as I never associated them with high quality products before but it had good reviews on amazon - and had a free esata cable. Also bought a small APC ups to ensure power quality. Total cost was roughly $200. I did unplug my HR 54 and waited until the drive had been running for 2 minutes before powering. DTV startup screen went through a formatting of the drive which took a couple of minutes. So far very pleased - will let everyone know status in a few months.
     
  5. Rich

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    I'm shocked! Misinformation from a D* CSR...who'd a thunk it?

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  6. NewDTVguy

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    Well I didnt make it two days let alone two months - the first few records went fine and then the genie slowed down to the point of being unusable. Reading other posts it seems like the HR54 is very finicky about external drives. May try anothe docking station as I was always suspicious about startech. Sigh
     
  7. Rich

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    The 54 actually slowed down? I don't see an external HDD doing that unless it's full. Might be the dock but I've never seen any reason a new HDD would cause any DVR to slow down. Did you take the external HDD off and try the internal HDD? That would give you some idea about what's wrong.

    Rich
     
  8. NewDTVguy

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    I did go back to the internal and everything worked fine. When I hooked up the external to my laptop it showed 4 separate volumes. I went ahead and delete them thinking maybe the genie found one of the small volumes. Anyway I reconnected and am trying again. It works ok now but the problem didnt start immediately before. I am concerned that the dtv message showing the drive was being formatted only took about 10 secs - which seems fast for a 4 TB drive. We’ll see how it goes this time
     
  9. P Smith

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    it been answered, the formatting is a short process writing a FEW sectors to a drive
     
  10. Rich

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    That's what I was looking for. Can you still return/exchange both the HDD and the dock? Let me find a dock that I have a bit of faith in...can't find one. Nuts. I gotta say the Startechs look like they'd work properly. Did yours have any problems hooking up to the HR? If it hooked up properly...it should work properly. I've had a lot of docks and the only issues I've had were with a goofy power switch. Once I got them to connect they always worked as they should. Might be the HDD. I know that can't possibly be full but it sounds like what a full HDD would do. Easiest thing you can do is send the HDD back, buy a WD Blue Caviar drive (I know they work well with HRs) and try another dock. You have proved it's either the dock and the HDD. I think.

    One more thing, the HDDs are only formatted once when you stick them on an HR. Is that what you referred to? Just that one time?

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  11. codespy

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    FWIW- Last week I plugged in new 6TB WD Blue drive from Amazon into my TT external dock, reinstalled my 80+ series links (using the old GUI of course) and everything is working perfectly. It’s running on my HR54. Like Rich said, go with the WD Blues. Been running them for a couple years now without any issues, very happy.
     
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  12. NewDTVguy

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    May do that. I just got home and the hr54 has frozen again - have to unplug it as the power button will not respond. Really strange. I initially just connected the drive as received. After the first failure i connected the seagate hd to my laptop via usb and found four separate volumes which I deleted. I have been travelling all day and will look into it some more tomorrow. I’m still not sure it is not using a hidden volume or something because it seems like it is running out of room after - 8 to 10 shows have been recorded.
     
  13. Rich

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    All these years using external HDDs and do you have any idea how many times I have put one of those HDDs on a computer...I can tell you exactly...never. Trust the system, it's simple. Just put a new, blank HDD in the dock and let the HR format the HDD. So simple. And the only problems I have had with HDDs is length of time in use...they tend to fail after 5 years or get so noisy you have to get rid of them. So simple. I used 5 years, but I have HDDs that have been in use far longer than that.

    I think you're gonna end up replacing that HDD.

    Rich
     
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  14. Delroy E Walleye

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    Rich is right.

    I can attest to the likelihood of the DVR reformatting after a connection to a laptop (Windows "did" something to the HDD that the DVR didn't "like" - simply by installing its own "driver" or something).
     
  15. NewDTVguy

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    I did initially use the hdd right out of the box. It was only after it failed the first time that I connected it to my laptop via usb and found 4 separate partitions. The dvr evidently creates these during the format process. The partitions/drives are not recognized by windows 10 as readable. I am thinking about deleting the partitions again and trying a low level format.

    Thanks for the comments. I am leary that the WD blue drive may not work with my dock - not sure I want to pony up another $100 to try it. Also concerned that newer model genies may be difficult to find a compatible external HD. Evidently DTV tech support has been telling people that new HR 54’s do not support external drives. I know TS is not reliable but DTV loses money when people watch recorded shows in lieu of purchasing content from them so maybe newer model HR54’s have been made difficult to deal with re external hdd. Really no reason a seagate drive should not work other than perhaps some specific drive formatting. Will try a few more things and then decide whether or not to punt or by another dock and/or HD.
     
  16. JerryMeeker

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  17. P Smith

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    you are probably old as myself to remember a necessary to do LLF... well, forget it ! current hdd don't need to do that - they have internal FW routine to remap bad sectors invisibly for you, your OS;
    removing partitions will force DVR to re-create them again
     
  18. Rich

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    Something can go wrong when you put an HDD on a computer. I know I'd screw something up if I did that. Why take a chance?

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    Why? That's the drive I settled on years ago (when the 'Blue' drives were still 'Green' drives) and they've never been a problem on my HRs. Aside from dying of old age. You mention the drive failed initially, how did it fail? They either connect or they don't. What happened?

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