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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. Jul 31, 2010 #741 of 3467
    rob_gendeau

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    Will a Rosewill RX-358 enclosure holding a WD 1.5TB EVDS work with both a HR20-100 and a HR24? I want to expand one of my HR20s, but it's probably dying and would want to move the external over to a new HR24 should I get one.
     
  2. Aug 1, 2010 #742 of 3467
    Rich

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    Good question. Not every enclosure works with every HR. Don't recall seeing anyone posting about the RX-358 and the 24s. Someone must have tried it. Anyone?

    I do know that the Thermaltake docking station and the Rosewill docking station (they seem to be identical items, just different logos and different prices) do work on the 24-500. Perhaps buying the Thermaltake on Amazon (they don't sell the cheaper Rosewill) and trying it on the 20 would be the best course to take. If it works on the 20, you're good and if it doesn't, you can return it to Amazon and truthfully tell them it is "incompatible" with your equipment.

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  3. Aug 4, 2010 #743 of 3467
    kingram52

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    Anyone try the Samsung Eco Green Drives? There is a F3 1.5 tb on www.dealnews.com
    for $66 -look under editors choice section.
     
  4. Aug 4, 2010 #744 of 3467
    Rich

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    Never had a lot of luck with Sammy HDDs, but that was a long time ago and perhaps they're better now. Nice price, if it works.

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  5. Aug 4, 2010 #745 of 3467
    drogot

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    Hate to muddy the esata waters but I mistakenly ordered a WD20EARS 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb and a Rosewill RX-358 enclosure. I installed them on an HR20-700 and they are working flawlessly (24hrs 8 recordings so far.)
     
  6. Aug 5, 2010 #746 of 3467
    Rich

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    Give it a few days. Then again, you might have gotten lucky and got the rare one that works properly.

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  7. Aug 6, 2010 #747 of 3467
    drogot

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    Rather be lucky than good, 40hrs still going strong.
     
  8. Aug 6, 2010 #748 of 3467
    Rich

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    This is the first EARS that I've seen that works in an HR. What did you do differently? That's the first EARS that I've read about that was installed in a Rosewill 358. Perhaps that's the answer? I know the one I had wouldn't work in an Antec or internally. It did boot up and record, but the freezeups were immediate and constant.

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  9. Aug 7, 2010 #749 of 3467
    drogot

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    I didn't do anything differently. I have 3 other hr20s with esata setups. Two with thermalakes, one with Calvary. The fan on the Calvery is acting up and the box runs hot. The thermalakes are great. The Calvery is 1.5tb, all the others are 2tb. The Rosewill looks very much like the thermalakes, but it does have minor differences.
     
  10. Aug 7, 2010 #750 of 3467
    Swampdawg78

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    :(First post so bear with me, thanks.

    Have read through a number of pages on this, but haven't crossed my issue....yet.

    I am trying to use a MX-1 with a WD15EADS, 1.5 TB green drive.

    1) When first installed on my HR23-700 it worked for awhile then just stopped.

    2) Receiver will no longer reboot with the external drive.

    3) Checked drive & installed jumper across pins 5 & 6 as some have suggested; receiver still will not boot with external HD.

    4) Tried on my HR20-700 this morning & receiver will not boot with the external drive attached.

    5) Is there a way to see if the drive is OK?

    6) MX-1 case seems OK as the light comes on & you can hear the drive spin up, but no boot.

    Please suggest possible solutions, if any.

    Thanks in Advance!
     
  11. Aug 7, 2010 #751 of 3467
    Rich

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    I've had one MX-1 that did almost what you describe. The only exception was that it never worked. It sounded like it was working and the light came on, but there was something wrong with it. Sounds like you might have gotten one of the bad ones.

    I've purchased three WD EADS and one of them was so noisy that I immediately sent it back. Make of that what you will. Makes me think that WD's QC might have a problem. I've also purchased two WD EVDS HDDs and they both work. Four out of five work very well. Still makes me wonder, tho.

    I've had one 23-700. Lasted three weeks. Wouldn't have another one.

    The 20-700s should work and work well with the MX-1 and the WD HDD. You did the right thing by putting the jumper on before you tried the 20-700.

    So, what to do? Simplest thing to do first is replace the MX-1. If you have to have an MX-1 and you can still return yours, do it. The likelihood of getting two bad MX-1s is very small.

    If you can't return it, you might try a different external device. I've got a Thermaltake docking station that works very well with a 2TB WD EVDS on it. My other three WDs are internals in three 20-700s. Here's a link to a Thermaltake. All you have to do is slide the HDD into the docking station.

    Since you've tried the setup on two different HRs, it has to be either the enclosure or the HDD. You might also try returning the HDD if you still can. I'd try a new enclosure first.

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  12. Aug 7, 2010 #752 of 3467
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    My Vantec Nexstar dock just died.I ordered another RX-358 which is working well(have 2 now-one on an HR20-700 and the other is an external Sata drive for storage).The last one I got has a much quieter fan.

    Hopefully,the Thermaltake dock is better.
     
  13. Aug 8, 2010 #753 of 3467
    Rich

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    Damn, that's just what I didn't want to hear. My Thermaltake is working so well and I do hope it lasts a long time. What went wrong, Fred?

    Rich
     
  14. Aug 8, 2010 #754 of 3467
    Volman

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    The drive wouldn't spin up and I thought it was dead.So,I ordered another Rosewill RX-358 and an EVDS 1TB to replace the drive and enclosure both.Put the old HDD intoi the new Rosewill and it's fine.So I tested the voltages on the Vantec dock and they were +12V DC and +8V DC(should be +12V and +5V).

    The Thermaltake dock doubtlessly uses a different chipset and gets great reviews......I wouldn't worry.I don't think it's "docks in general" that are a problem.I think the Vantec just went bad(unlucky?).
     
  15. Aug 8, 2010 #755 of 3467
    Rich

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    Well, that makes me feel better (a little better). Thanx Fred.

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  16. Aug 13, 2010 #756 of 3467
    Wilhite

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    My config - HR20-700, 2TB EVDS drive and Antec enclosure.

    I've read through the thread and can't find anything definitive as to whether the jumper is needed so I'm pretty much ready to just put it on and be done with it.

    Is there any downside to having the jumper on in my configuration?

    Am I losing any performance by having it?

    If I don't put the jumper on, record items and then discover that I need it, will the recorded items have issues that adding the jumper won't solve?
     
  17. Aug 14, 2010 #757 of 3467
    Rich

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    With the EVDS it shouldn't matter. I have an internal EVDS in a 20-700 and it has the jumper on it and works as it should. I didn't feel like finding out that it needed the jumper and just put it on. I think you don't really need it, tho. Doesn't seem to hurt if you do use it.

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  18. Aug 18, 2010 #758 of 3467
    DenaliMike

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    I have poured through all of the relevant forums/posts and have a question. It looked most people were recommending the MX-1 for a long time but more recently there has been a bunch of talk about other docks/enclosures. What are Rich and others recommend currently?
    - MX-1?
    - Thermaltake BlacX eSATA USB Docking Station? (I have some little kids and am leery of a plug-in docking station where they could just eject the drive) [ I know, just keep them away from it :) ]
    - Thermaltake N0012USU Max 4 Active Cooling 3.5-Inch USB 2.0 eSATA Hard Drive Enclosure
    - Or a different one….

    I plan on starting by adding a WD20EVDS to a HR24-100.

    Thanks.
     
  19. Aug 18, 2010 #759 of 3467
    theph0xx

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    What 2TB external is recommended for an HR-21/700? Preferably a prebuilt solution, but if absolutely necessary I'll get a case and drive separately.
     
  20. Aug 18, 2010 #760 of 3467
    Rich

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    I've got a Thermaltake docking station on my 24-500 and it's running quiet and cool. So simple to hook up. Here's a link. I just purchased another one ten minutes ago to put on a 20-700.

    I've only had the docking station for a couple months, if that long, and it has worked flawlessly. I've got a 2 year old running around the house and she can't even see the docking station. Positioned correctly, it's hardly noticeable. I realize that I haven't really had the docking station long enough to be positive about it, but I've had problems with MX-1s and while the fan is very efficient, it's like a vacuum cleaner. After a few months the accumulation of dust in the enclosure is much more than I expected. And they aren't quiet, at least I've never had one I didn't have to a pad under. Put one on a wood or glass shelf and you can certainly hear it.

    Rich
     

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