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Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 30, 2009.

  1. HDJulie

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    It's the DECA method & the second show we watched was also from an MRV DVR. No other DVR has MRV issues. We've had supported MRV since it became available with all of these DVR's. And the IP addresses in the DVR's is hardcoded.
     
  2. Jason Whiddon

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    It could be the drive then.

    I have a pay program call HDD Sentinal, and I use to to periodically test drives, since I have 3 externals now. Pulling the SMART Data and doing a disc test may be something to look at first to see the health of the suspect drive.
     
  3. Davenlr

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    If you are only having problems with shows being served from one specific DVR, I would suspect that server dvr is having issues with the hard drive, or the DECA (if external) box is overheating, or getting poor power from the server DVR.

    If the problem is with programs served from multiple DVR's, then you need to check the one you are watching on.

    PM VeryOldSchool and he can tell you how you can pull up a menu to test the MRV between all your DirecTv boxes. It will print out a grid of numbers, and those will tell him if there are any issues with the MRV itself. Id tell you, but cannot remember what the numbers all mean.
     
  4. HDJulie

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    It's just the one box. All 3 of the other DVR's work fine. It is an external DECA but the TV the box is connected to is almost never on so there is no heat from the TV & the DVR & DECA are on top of a bookcase & a little away from the wall so there should not be heat build up. I checked the DECA just now & it is barely warm.

    Another thing is we were watching a show from that DVR while a show was also being recorded to that DVR. I guess I'll have to disconnect the external drive & watch a few of the old shows on the internal drive & then hook up the external drive again & see if the glitches remain. Maybe it just needs to be rebooted.
     
  5. Davenlr

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    If it is the hard drive, you should see the same glitches when watching live on that dvr, although maybe not for long timeout durations like using mrv, but glitches none the less.
     
  6. HDJulie

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    Ok, will try that this afternoon then.
     
  7. Jason Whiddon

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    Going back to HDD's handling 5 HD streams plus other loads, I have a technical observation that Im wondering wrong or right :)

    Im using a pc of software I bought to monitor the health of my drives. Just doing a surface test of my internal laptop drive, its performance is 70 "MB/s" with no load.

    Just using Dish EHD numbers, since it shows file sizes, here would be 5 tuners/1 hour programs recording, roughly:

    1 OTA - 6500MB file / 2MB/s
    1 OTA - 6500MB file / 2MB/s
    1 Sat - 3500MB File / 1MB/s
    1 Sat - 3500MB File / 1MB/s
    1 Sat - 3500MB File / 1MB/s

    If Im looking at this right, the load is roughly less than 10MB/s, while the drive can do 70MB/s. Seems like it's pretty easy for a drive to do 5 HD streams, unless Im missing something.
     
  8. Jason Whiddon

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    For good orders sake, here is the laptop drive Im currently testing

    Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD1600BEVT 160GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s

    Ive noticed, just watching the dock, the little orange activity light doesnt not blink a lot, even when recording 5 things. The only time Ive seen it blink fast, is when you are deleting a program.
     
  9. inkahauts

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    The shows your having trouble with, they weren't recorded on an ota channel by chance where they? And do they play backfire from the originating dvr?
     
  10. HDJulie

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    No, not recorded OTA. I'm about to mess with the TV & DVR now to see how it does.
     
  11. HDJulie

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    Just a quick test & the recording had no problems playing from the recording DVR. I wonder if the DECA unit might be a problem. I'll swap it out with the one on the back of the HR22 & see what happens.
     
  12. P Smith

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    Is that program handle HDD's testing better the free MHDD and Victoria ?
     
  13. Jason Whiddon

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    Dunno.
     
  14. CCarncross

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    I didnt think you could use a drive smaller than 300GB with any of the dvrs. Maybe for most of us it just made no sense to be adding an external that was smaller than the smallest original drive ever available in one of the HR2x series dvrs.
     
  15. Jason Whiddon

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    That drive is the one that is in my laptop, but I used it for the MB/s test data is what I meant. Seems like if that little drive has that throughput, one of these green drives should have enough juice for 5 hd streams.
     
  16. Rich

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    I think I remember someone using a smaller HDD successfully, for what practical reason I can't imagine. Probably just to see if it would work.

    Could have been P Smith.

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  17. Rich

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    Since the DECAs came out, I've only had a problem with one. That one caused jittering on the picture. Thought it was the HDD, but I put a different HDD in one of my docking stations and the same thing happened. Had a service call, the DECAs on that HR were both changed and no more jitters.

    I will say that since I got the HD GUI, I have seen more freezups than I did before I downloaded it. Never mentioned it, figured they knew about it and would fix it. I define a freezeup as a frozen picture that can be fixed by using the remote. A lockup, I think of as having to reboot the HR.

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  18. Rich

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    Did you go back and see if the freezeup remained on the recording? That would mean that the DVR that recorded it recorded the freezeup. If it disappeared when you went back, I'd be looking at the HR or the HDD on that HR. Do you have another HDD you can temporarily put in the docking station, then watch a few shows on MRV and see if you still get the freezeups? That should give you an idea about the original HDD.

    Have you tried watching shows using the internal drive?

    Rich
     
  19. greenwave

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    Hello forum friends. What started out as an effort at an informational scan of this thread has evolved into a 2.5 hour productivity time-suck that has spawned an irrational fear that my perfectly functioning external HDD is doomed to die any day now and a sudden urgency to spend hundreds of dollars I really don't have on a new HDD and a docking station to ensure TV-viewing security for the next generation in my household. (Oh yes, also a lingering paranoia that I will invite a blistering rebuke from P Smith for being lazy. Merry Xmas, P!) Sigh.

    Anyway, my HR20-700 has been with me and functioning fine (if perpetually slow) for many years now, for as long as that device has been available. When D* activated eSata I added an "in the box" 1TB HDD, Calvalry I believe, and that has been cruising along at constant power now for about 3 years, maybe more. Only been turned off and/or rebooted maybe 5x in 3 years. We keep it at varying levels of content, but typically between 55-65% free. It has always made some noise, but lately it's been very noisy, and last week we had a brief stuttering playback problem (cured, at least for now it seems, by an overnight powering down).

    So after reading this thread I am thinking to have gotten 3+ years out of the Calvalry is not too bad, I really shouldn't expect much more, and I should probably start planning for the future. I have an HR23-700 that I have not expanded capacity on (yes I need to update my footer info), so I am thinking I will get a new HDD for the HR23 and start slowly shifting series links over to it as we wind down the Calvalry content. So with that background, my questions are:

    1. Should I be comfortable with/would you recommend my using a WD20EARS 2TB with the Thermaltake BlacX docking station for the HR23-700?

    2. How much noise should I expect from this setup as opposed to an enclosed set up? Most seem to suggest the WD EARS will be quieter than the Calvalry I'm using now, but my present media cabinet is open air so there is no cabinet door/wall buffers between my equipment and my viewing area.

    3. How "tall" will the docked HDD stand? I've seen the pictures some (i.e., Elwaylite) have posted, and the profile of the docked HDD doesn't look to be all that much higher than the Calvarly in its stand. My TV is wall mounted and I'd prefer to tuck that bad boy back behind my blu-ray player where it wouldn't be seen, but would like to know it will fit in the shelf space before I shell out the money for it.

    4. Should I just wait for the HR34 to become available to the masses and, if so, what are the chances D* would credit a swap of my HR20 and HR23 against its $300 purchase price?

    As always, thanks in advance. Although they don't know it, my family is much appreciative of all the help we've gotten through the years on this here outstanding forum. DB
     
  20. Jason Whiddon

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    1) Id use the WD20EARX 2TB, what I have, because it is the newer version

    2) Mines very quiet

    3) Not sure inch wise, but not much taller than if you just stood the HDD on its end
     

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