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eSATA - Has been enabled, but....

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. freshone

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    Well Johnny, not that problem but...I have all my stuff going into my DENON reveiver which does switching between components. All was fine. When I hooked up the THECUS I got for the esata (2 WD's, so far working flawlessly btw), suddenly when I switched over to the DVD from the DVR, the receiver flips out now...clicking like mad back and forth for some reason?? Now the funny part is, when I turn OFF the HR20, all is fine!! And from what I read, all it does is turn off the LED's on the front panel.

    I'm at a loss for what the THECUS is doing to cause it. Interference maybe? I don't know. But, if anyone has any ideas, I would love to hear them.

    Thanks!
     
  2. P Smith

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    Say "DUH!" one more time and start using STANDARDIZED acronym: eSATA.
     
  3. SirJW

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    Has anyone here w/ an HR-21 sucessfully connected an external drive?

    I've just spent almost an hour of time trying to get answers from advanced technical support and even though I know external drives are not supported by D* they don't even know what the SATA connection is or what it's for.

    Should I just ask for an HR-20? What are the cons of going backwards, even though I know they are essentially the same, there has to be a reason for not giving me the box when I've asked for one numerous times.

    Thank you all for your help...
     
  4. Rich

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    I'm getting that on all my HR20s whether they are connected to an eSATA or not. I think we have to expect glitches as more and more HD channels are enabled. Hopefully when the dust settles, the glitches will go away.
     
  5. Rich

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    May I be the first to welcome you to D*Hell. Don't count on D*'s CSRs to help you. Very few know what they are doing.

     
  6. jangell2

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    Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm glad you can confirm it is a systemic problem and not something with the way I'm cabled up. It has been a while now, since it last occurred this morning.
     
  7. rjf

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    off topic -- i agree most CSRs don't know jack, but it's not as bad as DishN. i was with those guys 8 years and let me tell ya, for my experience with D*, they put Dish to shame on all counts -- service, product, customer appreciation. i've only been with D* since march so maybe others have had time for the novelty to wear off, but personally, i'd rather go back to basic cable than Dish. i'll be with D* for a long time and am very happy with them. not that you were making any comparisons, just saying, as someone who spent the last 8 years in Dish hell, D* is pretty awesome.
     
  8. jdeaton

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    My 100 with 0x1be is spontaneously rebooting itself every so often. I have both a 100 and a 700 and recently swapped their locations as the 100 has a coaxial digital out and my purchase of a $99 HD DVD player necessitated the move. Previously the 700 was hooked up to a 750 GB Free Agent Pro and was locking up on a regular basis. When I unhooked the FAP and ran the 700 on the internal drive, it seemed all was fine. I then returned the FAP for a replacement and hooked the new FAP up to the relocated 100. All seemed fine for a week or so, now I'm getting the reboots. Maybe it’s the e-sata cable I got from Mono Price. I did have to trim the connectors to get a good fit. I’ve seen e-sata cables at Fry Electronics so maybe I’ll try one of theirs.
     
  9. P Smith

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    "e-sata cables" must be eSATA cables;
    a sata disk - must be SATA disk.
     
  10. jdeaton

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    Thank you P Smith, I appreciate your technical accuracy.
    Ok, I made the trip to Fry’s and found a 1.5 Meter “i.Connect” brand eSATA to eSATA cable. The tips of the connectors were longer (no trimming required) than my original Mono Price cable.

    When I arrived home this afternoon the blue lights on the 100 were spinning indicating it was going through yet another reboot.

    I let the DVR finish its boot process and return to live TV. I powered down and unplugged the HR20 and then the Free Agent Pro. I replaced the old eSATA cable with the new and attempted to power up the FAP. It would not come on by touching the on/off indicator until I just touched the plug of the HR20 into the outlet of my power console for a fraction of a second. The FAP then came to life. I allowed the FAP to boot for 5 minutes or so then firmly plugged the 100 back in. After a minute or two, the blue lights started spinning and the DVR completed its boot process normally.

    At the moment everything seems fine. All my recordings on the external drive are still there; Music & Photos, as well as DOD are all good. So… now we’ll see whether or not it continues is spontaneous rebooting.

    I know its almost never the cable but, but in this case, seeing as I’ve had problems with 2 different external drives and 2 different HR20’s and the only common component has been the cable, maybe just maybe the new eSATA cable will do the trick.
     
  11. SirJW

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    What drives work on the HR-21?
     
  12. Rich

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    Doesn't seem to happen on the MPEG2 Hi Def channels. Been watching Californication (what a great show, been laughing my nether regions off for two days now, what a hoot!) on Showtime in the 70s and the sound problem hasn't occurred at all.

    Like I said in the other post, we must have patience.
     
  13. Rich

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    Speaks volumes for Dish, doesn't it? And getting off topic isn't bad as long as we learn something. I think the best definition of "intelligence" is "the ability to learn". And I've been debating that definition for years with really "intelligent" people. We've narrowed it down to the above definition. With provisos of course.
     
  14. Rich

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    It is normal for the lights on the FAP to stay off until it senses the HR20. As soon as it senses the HR20 the lights will come on. Doesn't always happen, but it has occasionally with my eSATAs.

    Just an observation, 100s do not seem to accept the eSATAs as readily as the 700s and it sounds like the HR21 has some issues with eSATAs and other drives.
     
  15. rjf

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    that's what i like about this forum -- people willing to talk and help, or just point you to the right post without being an a**. a welcome change to the usual out there.

    btw-- your signature -- i was behind the writers until they started picketing. no one's ever died of writer's cramp. they make it sound like they're Norma Rae, or working in sweatshps for 12cents. i'm an indie writer, so i know what their gripe is and agree with them, but this picketing thing just strikes me as absurd. the best hollywood comedy in a while. only sad thing is, the little people are going bankrupt because of it. they should've tried a better approach. after all, if the pen is mightier than the sword, then disgruntled writers have got the market on writing propaganda. sorry if i've offended any wga people out there, but if the job sucks that bad, quit. i'll take it and be happy; no complaints. ok, now that really was off topic!
     
  16. shendley

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    I've read that in order to get the FAP to work with the HR21 it needs to operate at 3 rather than 1.5. But I've not seen anyone with a FAP and an HR21 comment on whether (and how) they've been able to make sure the FAP operates at 3 rather than 1.5. I've also just confirmed something that I read in a thread about this on the main HR20/21 forum that the FAP750 operates at 3 gigabytes per second over e-sata (http://www.seagate.com/docs/pdf/datasheet/disc/ds_fa_pro_us.pdf)Is this what people are referring to when they say the unit needs to operate at 3 rather than 1.5? So far, this information seems more confusing than helpful at this point.

    I would also love to hear from someone with a FAP that actually works with an HR21. I believe Earl commented earlier in the thread that it's worked for some but not for others, but I've yet to hear from a soul who says it worked for them with the 21 (though I certainly could have missed someone's positive post). Now, I've had a FAP for a couple of months now with the HR20 and it's worked flawlessly. I'd hate to lose my Seagate if I moved to an HR21.
     
  17. Rich

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    I've read an awful lot of posts that seem to suggest the 21s do not work well with eSATAs. I need the eSATAs. It's either that or put a larger HD in the unit itself. I don't really want to do that. Everything I want to watch is now in HD, why would anyone spend money on something with a tiny storage capacity that is leased and cannot be modified without repercussions from the leasing company?

     
  18. Rich

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    I've been asking for a while about problems with eSATAs and 100s. No answers. Curious.

     
  19. jdeaton

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    From July through the end of August my 750 GB Free Agent Pro worked flawlessly with my HR20-700. Since the 0x194 CE in early September, I have had problems. With the FAP connected to my HR20-700 I would often get a black screen with no audio when coming out of stand by or the picture would freeze with a loss of audio during live TV. I kept hoping each subsequent CE would cure the problem, but no luck. I eventually exchanged the FAP for another one, I replaced the eSATA cable for one that does not require trimming of the connector and finally swapped my 700 for my 100, and I continue to have eSATA related problems. In the case of eSATA and my 100 I encounter continual rebooting. In both cases, disconnecting the FAP from the 700 and the 100 resulted in normal/stable operation of my HR20’s. So… Two FAP’s, two HR20’s and two eSATA cables and problems since 0x194. Is it software or hardware?
     
  20. gimp

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    I upgraded a few weeks ago from an HR10-250 to an HR20-700. I started right off with an esata and it has worked flawlessly. I'm using a WESTERN DIGITAL
    WD10EACS 1TB SATA 7200 RPM 16MB Hard Drive in a ANTEC MX-1 Hard Drive Enclosure. Before assembling I added a jumper to the drive to enable OPT1, which locks it at a 150MB/s transfer rate. I wonder if this might be the reason some have difficulty getting their SATAII drives to work.

    This drive/enclosure combo is very quiet and cool.

    Hard to believe but I've already used up more than 70% of the available space.

    Now if we could only get some HD content on DoD!
     

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