eSATA - Has been enabled, but....

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    SATA drives [HDD], but eSATA interface [cable/connectors], right ?
     
  2. auskck

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    Spot on.
     
  3. auskck

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    FYI: DirecTv you need to support removable HDDs and not have them tied to the receiver. Get your head out, Dish is miles ahead when it comes to handling removable drives. It is a major selling point. You will be losing a $150 a month customer if you don't address this feature. I hope your reading these posts.
     
  4. Podkayne

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    Sounds like the hard drive or the enclosure is bad. I'd change out the drive first, then the enclosure. I've got a pair of WD10EACS in a JBOD array in a Vantec MX enclosure. Lots of folks have great success with practically any hard drive in an Antec MX-1.

    Good luck.
     
  5. auskck

    auskck Mentor

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    Hard drives and enclosures working fine until you power off the HR22 and bring it backup then all files are lost
    Note HDD is up and running to speed when power is restored to the HR22
    See #2746 for configuration
     
  6. RaceTripper

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    The hard drive and enclosure might be fine, but that doesn't mean the HR22 isn't incompatible with the enclosure. When it boots it might think the drive has a problem and reinitialize it. Many enclosures have problems with the HR21/22/23 that manifest in different ways. I second the recommendation of the Antec MX-1 enclosure. It seems to work very reliably with the HR units.
     
  7. auskck

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    Okay I have 1 and will test with it. Weak unsupported FW tied to a receiver just plan stupid for this day and age.
    Thanks

    Update:
    Tested with Antec MX-1 unplug replug files recovered.
    Changed to my enclosure unplug replug files recovered.
    Just cannot trust the receivers or the FW
    Like flipping a coin will it recover the files or not.
     
  8. Postpunk

    Postpunk New Member

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    FYI--It took my HR20/700 several attempts to recognize this Apricorn drive but it is working now. The standard method (connect eSATA cable, power up drive, power up HR20) did not work, reversing the eSATA cable did not work. I kept re-plugging in the drive and then had luck with simply hitting the red reset button on the HR20 while both it and the drive were powered up. As I said, it is working now and filling up with HD content but I'm a bit uncertain about its stability.
     
  9. mtnsackett

    mtnsackett Legend

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    why Mess with ESATA drives, I have one HR20-100 and a Hr21-200 and I replaced both 320 GB drives with Western Digital 2 Tb drives. I guess for some it may be an issue with having leased recievers but since I own mine it is not an issue. I have been Happy with both recievers and had few issues with either of them even running CE Firmware



    WD20EADS 2 TB, 32 MB Cache, SATA 3 Gb/s
     
  10. auskck

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    How do you own the receivers? I was under the impression all receivers were leased.
    If your receiver goes down, so do all your saved files. bye bye 2tb of data gone in the wind, unless your telling us you can transplant you internal drive to a new receiver without jumping through a long process of non standard file coping.
    Not a good system. DirecTv is not very advanced when it comes to HDD handling.
     
  11. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    Wasn't many times explained how ppl getting the DVR for owning ?

    Also, discussed - no swap between DVR.
     
  12. awaschka

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    I have tried two combinations of enclosures/HDD with no success on my HR20-100. Another member posted success with the Kingwin enclosure. I tried it with a WD 1TB drive and it was like it wasn't plugged in. After reading the posts on DBSTalk, I bought an Antec MX-1 and a different WD 1TB from Amazon. Also no luck, but different. The light on the enclosure goes from bright to dim with changes in the monitor screen, but the HR-20 is stuck in a loop between the starting up and almost there screens. Any suggestions? I've got $400 tied up in non-working drives and enclosures. I have tried pullling the power plug and hitting the red reset button. Never get the formatting HD message.

    Thanks,

    Al
     
  13. awaschka

    awaschka Cool Member

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    Drive in Antex MX-1 enclosure is WD Caviar Black WD1001FALS.
     
  14. auskck

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    It's very difficult trying to deal with unsupported FW
    I have the HR22 with homegrown (see post #2746) and Antex MX-1 enclosures
    HR22 always finds the drives, but on the homegrown it may or may not recover my recording. The Antex MX-1 enclosure seems to work more consistently but it also has lost all the files.
    Suggestions:
    Unplug power to receiver for 5 minutes
    Make sure your drive has power and up to speed
    Replug receiver
    You may want to swap ends of the esata cable (I know sounds stupid but another user did and it worked)
    Try using a different esata cable
    This has been a costly project that I am not happy with.
    If DirecTv won't support esata or USB external drives they may find this $150 a month customer going to dish which has swappable supported USB drives
    Plus the esata drives are tied to the receiver serial number lose your receiver lose your files.
    Dish removable drives can be switched to any DVR on the account plus the internal drive doesn't get disabled.
    If directv doesn't start working on this problem I'm gone.
     
  15. awaschka

    awaschka Cool Member

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    Well, I tried the "let it get comfortable" approach suggested on here. I left the receiver "off" but plugged in and the Antec powered up over night. I came down this morning and unplugged and replugged the HR20 power cord. To my amazement, I got the "reformatting hard drive message". Then the receiver appeared to restart and go into it's normal startup sequence. But it locked up and reset halfway through the "Checking Satellite Settings 1 of 2" screen. I powered off, reversed the eSATA cable and repowered. The receiver booted normally and is now back on the internal drive, even though the external is plugged in and powered on. I'm guessing a wierd cable problem. I have two cables from buying two enclosures and I have swapped ends on both. I may try trimming the end. What part does one trim, the plastic that protrudes beyond the metal at the end of the connector?
     
  16. auskck

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    The esata process is not a happy one.
    IMO you have to force the receiver (unplug not just power down)
    Best of luck
     
  17. auskck

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    FYI: FW to handle remote esata drives looks like it came from the "Dark Ages" very poor and very weak and very unsupported. In a word "JUNK"
     
  18. P Smith

    P Smith Mr. FixAnything

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    And the conclusion came from a person who cannot type eSATA word and don't understand simple fact - there are no such eSATA drives. :( Would be nice also to educate yourself in Linux terminology like 'drivers', 'daemon', etc first.

    Just for clarification - internal and external disks have DIRECT connection to main chip BCM7038 [H/R20] or BCM7401 [HR22] and OS [Linux] handle one of the disks SAME way as other; hence there is no two disks configuration !
     
  19. auskck

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    Excuse me Mr Perfect AH. Thank for your AH comments.
     
  20. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    In the interest of accuracy, the chipset used in auskck's HR22 is the BCM7401.
     

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