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eSATA - Has been enabled, but....

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Aug 3, 2007 #1421 of 2831

    bgullicksen Legend

    Oct 1, 2006
    Not really,

    If you click your list button, there is an available space % down at the bottom. If you record a few HD shows you should notice that the % available drops much slower than when you were using the internal drive. If your external is much larger, you will be able to tell pretty quickly.

    I've got a 750GB drive and I have currently about 35 recordings and my available is 87%. With the internal, I'd be getting close to full about now.

    You should also be able to see the drive activity on the external if it working. That's about the only way to tell.


    QUOTE=JSFord;1032546]it seems to have worked this time by redoing the original instructions. How can I verify it is working off the esata drive? Is there a space remaining meter soewhere?

    Just switched from 10-250 and new at the H20

  2. Aug 4, 2007 #1422 of 2831

    69hokie Icon

    Sep 23, 2006
    About 30 minutes ago, I joined the many who have added storage by adding a 750 Seagate FA Pro using a SIIG Serial ATA II compliant eSata to eSata cable (2meter). No problems at all with the connection on either the receiver or the drive enclosure at this point that others have had with other cables. Only apparent issue was that when the red record light came on indicating fomatting in progress, it never went out. The picture came back and the "old" List was gone and the % use of the drive was indicating 0%. Tested recording and everything seemed to work fine except for the continuous red recording light. I did a menu reset, the red light went out with the reset and never came back, and the "old" List was still gone, so I believe I am up and running on the new Seagate drive. I have scheduled a couple of HD movie records that overlap on different channels to check the recording via both satellite tuners and listing features are working and hopefully to get an indication via the % use of the storage that the new drive is in fact in use and verify the size the receiver is seeing. Really easy setup except for the hung up red light...hope it isn't an indicator of problems!! We will see.
  3. Aug 4, 2007 #1423 of 2831

    gazzie4 Legend

    Mar 14, 2007
    I too went esata today and have the same issue with the red record light staying on even 30-45 minutes after restart, could this be the receiver downloading guide data?!?
  4. Aug 4, 2007 #1424 of 2831

    Cyrus Godfather

    Oct 22, 2006
    A menu reset should get rid of the rec light.
  5. Aug 4, 2007 #1425 of 2831

    anubys Godfather

    Jan 19, 2006
    are those recordings SD? I have 1 TB and no way I'd be at 87% with 35 recordings...I was at around 90% yesterday with 10 or so things recorded (they were all HD...half were OTA and a couple were HDNet...the rest were HBO & ESPN)...

    one weird thing I've noticed is SPs that are set for first run now record repeats as well (that did not happen before going to the external drive)...can't explain why that would be...
  6. Aug 4, 2007 #1426 of 2831

    lucky13 New Member

    Nov 27, 2006
    Check the info on the repeats scheduled to record. Are they generic (e.g., The Simpsons: Homer and Marge raise three children in suburban Springfield...") or episode-specific. If they're generic, the guide doesn't have the episode info; since it doesn't know if it's a repeat, it defaults to record.

    If you have episode-specific info, double-check your SL settings.
  7. Aug 5, 2007 #1427 of 2831

    Fire407 Cool Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    You might want to double check that you are actually using the external drive and not still on the internal drive. First, it seems that you should have a whole lot more space available on your drive with only 10 or so HD things recorded. Second, when you boot to the new drive, you should lose all of your previous scheduled recordings and series links, and you should have to reset them all from scratch. I only have a 750GB drive, but I have 87% space available after recording 7 movies including King Kong.
  8. Aug 5, 2007 #1428 of 2831

    anubys Godfather

    Jan 19, 2006
    I'm using the new drives...I lost my ToDo and had to reset all my SPs...I do notice a big improvement in space, but not as much as you indicated...since I went from 300 GB to 1 TB, I expected a 3-fold increase, and that's about what I get...yours sounds a lot more dramatic, that's all...
  9. Aug 5, 2007 #1429 of 2831

    rcoleman111 Guest

    It sounds like you are using the new drives but you don't really have 1TB of storage. Is it a single 1TB drive or an array? If you have an array, it's possible you have it set to RAID1 instead of RAID0. That would cut the available storage in half - from 1TB to 500GB.

    I have a 1TB disk RAID0 array connected to my HR20 and it works as expected. I've counted the hours of HD programming at times (taking into account MPEG2 and MPEG4) and the available space is always close to what it should be.
  10. Aug 5, 2007 #1430 of 2831

    geneb11 Legend

    Mar 24, 2002
    I bought this drive and it works just fine,but I did have to shave down the cable end that goes into the drive so that it would go in deeper.
  11. Aug 5, 2007 #1431 of 2831

    anubys Godfather

    Jan 19, 2006
    shoot...you're right...I think I left it at the factory default (RAID1)...

    oh man...I have to reset everything again...:mad:

    thanks for the tip...:D
  12. Aug 6, 2007 #1432 of 2831

    jp41 Cool Member

    Jun 14, 2007
  13. Aug 6, 2007 #1433 of 2831
    Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    It will not work because it only has USB out. You need a eSATA hard drive.
  14. Aug 6, 2007 #1434 of 2831

    jp41 Cool Member

    Jun 14, 2007
    Thanks, I figured it was too good to be true.
  15. Aug 9, 2007 #1435 of 2831

    virodeath New Member

    Aug 9, 2007
    I have been reading thru the posts and was wondering what so far would be the largest & quietest HD for internal mounting?

    Also if I have a HTPC with lots of internal space for HD's and it is right next to my HR20 would it be possible to run a eSATA cable from the HR20 to the back of my HTPC and run several drives in a raid configuration just using my HTPC as the case and source of cooling?

    Last question, I bought my HR20 off a dealer on eBay, when it was installed the service dude tried to get me to sign a lease contract on the HR20, I told him to take a flying leap (in so many words) since I didn't buy it from DTV. He said they are required to try to get the customers to do that and didn't blame me for not wanting to sign it. So my question is does DTV have some kinda blanket lease on all units hooked to their service (ie claim over my unit) or can I mod my HR20 without worrying about them kicking in my door yelling RAT!


  16. Aug 9, 2007 #1436 of 2831

    airmark New Member

    Oct 18, 2006
    If someone has successfully found a way to enable the D* HR20-700 box to allow backup of recorded HD programing to PC I haven't been able to find it. (Enable sounds better than hack, right?)

    Do we know what kind of Operating System the RX / DVR runs? What format on its hard drive? Possibly a Linux-based OS? Or, some proprietary disk format with encryption??

    I recently tried a Win s/w called "MacDrive 7" that enables Win XP to read & write a Mac OS formatted drive. I think similar is possible between Linux OS / HD format --> with Windows.

    If networking on the fast ports on these boxes will remain blocked indefinitely, I hope there is a way around.

    If we knew the HardDrive format of the DVR and had Win or Mac s/w to Read/Write that format, would networking be solved so puters can backup the DVR's HD programs?

    *** P.S. Further searching, found thread titled 'HR20 seems to be running Linux...possible GPL violations?' with links to more threads on the subject.
    I gather the HR20 (and some TiVos) run on Linux, but there's also talk of encryption. So if puters could read the DVR's HD format, that may not be a solution.
  17. Aug 9, 2007 #1437 of 2831

    AlbertZeroK Icon

    Jan 28, 2006
    Encryption on the Tivo's was never broken, it was just turned off. So I doubt there is little hope for un-encrypting anything off the HR20 IF you can figure out the disk structure.
  18. HDTVFanAtic

    HDTVFanAtic Banned User

    Jul 23, 2005
    Any unit activated on Directv after March 1st of 2006 is leased.

    There are some exceptions that concern replacement of owned equipment, but they are few and far between - and clearly nothing that lets you own the HR20 you purchased off eBay.

    If you activate it - it's leased.
  19. empire_of_one

    empire_of_one Mentor

    Jan 19, 2007
    just an update...

    after the reboot problems my first weekend with the seagate and SIIG esata cable, with about 4-5 reboots over a 3 day period, i haven't had a reboot problem in a week and a half now, so i feel safe in saying that i think the reboot problem has been fixed, though i'm not sure exactly how. i attempted to shave off the plastic end (not the rubber grip part) of the connector end that goes to the HR20, and at the same time, i did a full power-down, unplug-replug of everything (but not a reformat), so maybe the cable wasn't sitting properly in the seagate too, and replugging it got it to sit right. whatever it was, everything seems to be humming along ok now. the extra space is very nice, but for me, the best part (and the main reason i got the external drive to begin with) is that i don't have to listen to the constant loud clicking of the internal HDD. since i only sit about 9' away from my entertainment center, and thus the HR20, that clicking noise would drive me nuts anytime i was trying to watch something quiet. the seagate is so much quieter, i can't hear it from 9' at all unless everything else is turned off.
  20. rosmith51

    rosmith51 New Member

    Aug 10, 2007
    When you switch back and forth between an external and an internal does the programming list for each of the drives stay intact...

    That is if I use the external for a while then switch back to the internal is the same to-do list that was on the internal before I switched to the external still there?

    I may want to keep sporting events and particular movies on the external drive for instance while keeping the standard daily programming on the internal so I'd want the internal drive to keep it's schedule of what to record since I'd only be using the external 10-12 hours a week for the special events.

    So I'd really only use the external drive when I wanted to either record something to it or watch something that was on it...

    Does that work?

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