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eSATA - Has been enabled, but....

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. Sep 6, 2007 #1621 of 2831
    Old Moe

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    I checked the warranty statement. No DVR disclaimer that I can see. Good to know. I have a bad habit of not reading these things.
     
  2. Sep 6, 2007 #1622 of 2831
    vertigo235

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    I'm marginally concerned about the failure of the Seagate, but for $199 I'll chance it. If i have to replace it more than once, i'll move it over to my PC I guess.

    Warentee is one thing, but loosing all your shows would suck.
     
  3. Sep 6, 2007 #1623 of 2831
    vertigo235

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    Not really sure how they could tell if it was used with a DVR anyhow.
     
  4. Sep 6, 2007 #1624 of 2831
    Volman

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    That's the big problem with these receivers.It doesn't matter how the receiver failure occurs(drive,something in the box,power surges,etc.).You lose your shows on an external drive(or internal,for that matter) unless it continues to be used with the HR20 it's "married to".At least that's what my understanding is.

    The real downside is that you can put a lot more material on HDD now.And until there is a reasonable way to archive these recordings,it can happen that you lose it all.
     
  5. Sep 6, 2007 #1625 of 2831
    Lsol

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    rblancojr

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    Eddie, sounds like a nice setup. I may go for that.

    I too ran into the link issue when I first started posting here. Lesson learned? I always do a copy of any posts before hitting the preview button. Not just here, but anywhere that seems to use vbulleting to power their forums.

    The kicker in all this is that the Seagate will cost a little less and you get a 5 year warranty. However, I am more interested in cooling and noise. I have seen the Freeagent and I think it runs a little hot.

    Thanks for the information.
     
  7. Sep 6, 2007 #1627 of 2831
    freshone

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    I'm curious. I had an HR20-700 for a year. Got hit by lightning last month. When the tech came out, he replaced it with a different "looking" receiver. It was a 100. He claimed it was the newer model.

    From some comments here and there, it seems to me like the 700 is the NEWER model and I got a refurbed 100? Someone even posted that the 100's were all recalled?

    If this is true, I'm gonna be severely pissed off.

    Most likely a call to DTV would be in order.

    Can anyone clue me in.
     
  8. Sep 6, 2007 #1628 of 2831
    K4SMX

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    Any hard drive can fail at any time. Seems like the drives from 5 years ago lasted forever. Now I'm seeing drives fail after only one or two years. I would not rely on a 5 year warranty to make you feel all warm and fuzzy. Hard drives should be backed up regularly.

    One of the length-of-service issues with using these drives in a DVR application has to do with how you use them. Every time you are recording two programs while watching a third you are really pushing the data "throughput" of the drive. Drive manufacturers do have different quality levels available. Perhaps someone here has already posted about what level of quality drives Pace and Philips are using in these HR-20's; I haven't researched that. It wouldn't surprise me to find out they aren't top-of-the-line.

    Here's a question I have: I have an external drive. That internal drive is still grinding away 24/7. It fails. Does the Hr-20 continue to operate? If not, then I swap it out with D* and get a new box. After authorization, the new box re-formats my eSATA drive. Then where am I? Does this mean that my library is depending on the continuing functioning of two drives. I had to take statistics once. I don't like the joint probabilities here....
     
  9. Sep 6, 2007 #1629 of 2831
    Rich

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  10. Sep 6, 2007 #1630 of 2831
    Rich

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    I hope the eSATA is sufficient if the dormant drive fails. It does nothing, you could probably get away with pulling the dormant drive's power cord out of the motherboard. Now you have me worried.
     
  11. Sep 6, 2007 #1631 of 2831
    Volman

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    The point of my post is that we can(and some,possibly many) WILL lose all their recordings.And it is worse now because the capacity is so much greater.The 5 year warranty at least assures that you haven't wasted $200 on a drive that fails early on.It does not protect your recorded data.

    So,eSATA is great for it's increased capacity.........but,will be a mixed blessing.
     
  12. Sep 6, 2007 #1632 of 2831
    marksman

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    Is there any way to tell if the ESATA drive is being used?

    I added the 750 Freeagents to two of my HR-20s today, and the first one already had some passes and recordings, so I could tell when it was using the external drive. The other one I was not thinking, so it was blank and I am having a hard time telling if it is using it or not. I guess I could unplug it and see. Just wondering if there is any device info listing that indicates if it is being used.
     
  13. Sep 6, 2007 #1633 of 2831
    fochs13

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    After using a $40 off $199 coupon (that I bought on ebay for $2), I was able to get the 750 gb seagate for $160 plus tax. I've got it hooked up and am slowly adding my season passes. I'm watching the colts/saints game and one thing I've noticed is audio drop outs during the commercials. Has anyone else experienced this?
     
  14. Sep 6, 2007 #1634 of 2831
    fochs13

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    This may have been posted before, but I don't have time to read through 66 pages of posts. I'm wondering if there is a way to switch between the internal and external drives without unplugging the external drive? Any info is much appreciated.:D
     
  15. Sep 6, 2007 #1635 of 2831
    Michael D'Angelo

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    No. You have to disconnect the eSATA and reboot the HR20.
     
  16. Sep 6, 2007 #1636 of 2831
    marksman

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    By the way I don't need how to tell anymore. I did the surgery on my second cable on both ends, and it recognized the freeagent 750 right away.
     
  17. Sep 6, 2007 #1637 of 2831
    shendley

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    You're absolutely right about the search delay being an issue with the guide rebuilding. It's running very quickly today. And the guide point makes sense as well. I hadn't thought about it that way.

     
  18. Sep 6, 2007 #1638 of 2831
    vertigo235

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    The 100 is a newer model, but the 700 gets more attention and is more widely distributed.
     
  19. Sep 6, 2007 #1639 of 2831
    mganga

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    any timetable as to when we might not have to do this--is it a complex addition or is it just low on the priority list for the programmers?
     
  20. Sep 7, 2007 #1640 of 2831
    Cyrus

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    I never unplug eSATA from hr20. I do a menu reset on HR20 and when the first blue screen shows up (or when the lights go off on the hr20 front panel) I turn the power off on the eSATA. When I want to switch back to eSATA I do the same except turn the power on.
     

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