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eSATA - Has been enabled, but....

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Tips and Resources' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 4, 2006.

  1. DonCorleone

    DonCorleone Icon

    Jan 28, 2006
    Nuts! Ok, thanks.
  2. Robert Norman

    Robert Norman Mentor

    Aug 26, 2005
    Even in standby the HR20 is still operating and recording to disk. The Seagate 750 drive is always running and is power by a 120 volt to 12 volt converter.

    If power interruption happens the Seagate drive always comes up before the HR20 comes up so no problem with the HR20 switching back to its internal drive.

    No slow down on HR20 operation. You cannot tell the difference except having around 100 hours of high definition storage or around 488 hours of standard storage on the Seagate 750 gig drive.

    Yes you can replace the internal drive but you lose the warranty and DIRECTV can charge you the full replacement cost for tampering with their lease box if they find out. Will they find out? Probably not if you put the factory drive back into the box if you have service problems and have to ship it back to DIRECTV or have a DIRECTV service person come out. Why take the risk when the external drive works great with the HR20?
  3. mocarob

    mocarob Legend

    Jul 26, 2007
    What's a 'menu reset' ?
  4. Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    Press Menu-->Help & Settings-->Setup-->Reset-->Restart Receiver

    That is the best and safest way to reset the HR20 or R15. Doing a RBR (red button reset) or plugging the power cord should only be done if your remote and receiver is unresponsive and you are unable to get into the menu.

    DVR's are like PC's and it is not good for them to have a sudden lose of power because it is not good for the hard drive. Doing a menu restart is like doing a reset on a PC.
  5. jangell2

    jangell2 Godfather

    Apr 6, 2004
    Thanks for the answers. I guess the FAP is the way to go. Does it come with the required cable?

    Too bad I missed the sale.
  6. empire_of_one

    empire_of_one Mentor

    Jan 19, 2007
    i guess i'm one of the unlucky ones, but i've had nothing but problems with the Seagate 750GB drive. the first one i ordered from newegg didn't work at all, and i had to send it back for a replacement. the 2nd one came, and it took 3 days of random reboots before it finally started working on a consistent basis.

    it worked great for about 3 weeks, then boom, things started going south. the drive would lock up any time i tried to play back a recording. i tried everything imaginable, switching to different cables, trimming the cables, rebooting, and nothing helped. finally i went back and reformatted the drive and tried to start again from scratch -- and the problem was still there. it's like the drive couldn't keep send the data as fast as the HR20 was asking for it, and everything would lock up and the signal would drop off.

    this really sucks, because for those few weeks when it worked, it was fantastic. now i'm looking for another brand of drive that i can get to work before the fall season starts up. i don't even care about space, i just want something that doesn't make the constant clicking noise of the internal drive, which is driving me nuts anytime i try to watch a program with quiet portions.
  7. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Don't leave us hanging, let us know how you make out.
  8. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Wow! I've got four of them running, two for months with no problems. That does not sound like its the FAP. Did you try running the unit using the internal drive? That sounds more like a problem with the DVR.
  9. nagor

    nagor New Member

    Aug 2, 2007
    Just saw an ad that Buy.com has a Calvary 1 TB drive for $219 after rebate.
    Will this one work?
  10. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Just returned my eighth Cavalry 750 Gig eSATA. Noisy, but worked well, but really noisy. Small highspeed fans, banging and clanging HDs. Never had a software issue with them. But the noise, the noise, oy. FAPs, no noise. Wait a while, Seagate will come out with the TB model soon.
  11. cartrivision

    cartrivision Hall Of Fame

    Jul 25, 2007
  12. edo

    edo New Member

    Sep 10, 2007
    I just pluged in a Sata Drive (Seagate 300Gb) to my HR20-700. Once plugged in, turned power on and then I reset my DVR (didn't unplugged) Everything looked like the same as when you reset the unit. One thing called my attention: there was a RED light (solid) between flashes of the DTV logo... I said to my self: Uh-oh!! AT the end I went to my recordings, and VOILA! it was EMPTY!!! Then I found these posts and I learned that it uses 1 drive at a time....

    Any way, I started recording stuff and they looked fine. So now the question was: what happened with the data on my internal drive? So now I unplugged the power for my DVR, then unplug teh SATA from my DVR and ther plug the DVR in again and turned it on.

    No red light.. (Fiuuuu!!!) Everything went as usual. At the end I went to my recording and EVERYTHING was there!!!

    It was a very good experience.

    Now, I need to play with the network.. and that's another story...
  13. marksman

    marksman Godfather

    Dec 23, 2006
    I have the EXACT same set-up. Last Thusday I picked up 2 of the 750 FreeAgents, and 2 Link Depot eSata to eSata cables from Frys. The first box I tried I was able to get it to work if I layed the FreeAgent face down. This kept the cable from twisting and coming out of contact. The second one I could not get to work, until I trimmed a bit of the rubber plastic around it. I just used a sharp knife and trimmed it all the way around and peeled it off. I later did the same thing for the first drive as it stopped working if it became jostled at all.

    Both drives have been working fine since. Others have said they got cables that work out of the box, so that is surely an option. Was not one I was patient enough to wait on, so I followed the advice of the trimmers, and has been okay so far.
  14. Paladin369

    Paladin369 Mentor

    Aug 19, 2007
    Has anybody used a SATA port to hook up more then one external SATA drive? Would this be a possibility? Found a port at www.sataport.com it has 5 ports for SATA drives. WOW, just think of what we can record and save.

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  15. Rich

    Rich DBSTalk Club DBSTalk Club

    Feb 22, 2007
    Piscataway, NJ
    Hmm. Pondering. Need someone with more knowledge than I have, but that would be great. How would the DVR know which one to record on? Nah, too good to be true.
  16. dminches

    dminches Godfather

    Oct 1, 2006
    The HR20 wouldn't see all the drives as one drive so I can't see how it could work and utilize all the available storage space.
  17. iowaberg

    iowaberg Godfather

    May 24, 2007
    This is probably the dumbest post in this thread but is there some type of eSATA FAQ for those of us new the HR20 and eSATA? I'm just clueless when it comes to this other than knowing it will increase my recording capacity. Can someone point me in the right direction?
  18. shendley

    shendley Hall Of Fame

    Nov 27, 2005
    I posted this in the HR 20 thread but since it's most relevant to this thread I thought I'd post it again here. Perhaps this is known already (but I wasn't aware of it), but when you have to do an RBR on the 20, it appears to automatically come up with the internal drive rather than the e-sata drive. If you do an RBR you need to unplug the external drive (in my case a Seagate 750 gb) before doing the RBR and plug it back in before the 20 powers back up. If you're just doing a Menu restart, the 20 appears (in my case, at least) to recognize the external drive as long as it's powered up and plugged in. Curiously, the Seagate's light always dims a bit during a Menu restart as the 20 powers back up. When I did an RBR and unplugged the Seagate before doing it, the lights stayed bright through the entire restart. But the 20 recognized the Seagate despite the fact that the lights didn't dim (which I thought, on the basis of my menu restarts, was a necessary condition of the 20 connecting with the exernal hard drive).
  19. funhouse69

    funhouse69 Icon

    Mar 26, 2007
    I haven't seen that behavior before. I have 2 HR20's one 700 & one 100 and I have eSATA 750's connected to both. I'm doing CE's with the 700 and had to RBR it a few times and never once has it come up and not recognize the external drive. This goes the same for soft resets as well.

    I don't believe that I have had to RBR the 100 although I have done a soft reset a few times due to some OTA issues and again never a problem recognizing the external drive.
  20. finaldiet

    finaldiet Hall Of Fame

    Jun 13, 2006
    You power up the esata first, but don't connect to receiver yet. Pull power cord from receiver. Connect esata cable to receiver and then plug in receiver cord. The receiver will format esata drive at start-up. Check your list and it should be blank. What ever you recorded on original drive will still be there as receiver now only reconizes esata drive. You are able to go back to original drive by dis-connecting esata. You will have to re-do your series passes again, like first run,etc. on your esata drive now.

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