ESPN and ABC not showing up on my Slingbox

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  1. SparkyX

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    I can confirm:

    HR24 -HDMI-> TV (which is off)
    -Component-> Slingbox 350

    ABC (the OTA network channel): OK
    ESPN, ABC Family, Disney Channel: HDCP required, my Slingbox can't stream.

    Up until now HDCP on DirecTV had been limited to PPV and premium movie channels mostly. Time to get some component cables.
     
  2. peds48

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    Or a powered HDMI switch.
     
  3. Bill Broderick

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    Monoprice has high quality 6ft component cables for $9.99
     
  4. SparkyX

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    Or that, but this TV isn't attached to an entertainment system so it's not a huge loss to go to component cabling. If it was the main TV in the house and attached to a receiver, the HDMI switch would be a better option.
     
  5. KyL416

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    Or you can just keep your existing setup and use the Watch apps to view the ESPN and Disney channels live. The Watch apps also put most new episodes up at 3am ET/12am PT the next morning.
     
  6. davring

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    My Slingbox is connected via component cables and the HDCP protection was blocking those outputs on many shows as well. The powered HDMI switch stopped the problem.
     
  7. MarkN

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    I have a 50ft HDMI run inside a wall from the HR24 to the TV, so switching to component cable is going to be practical. I have component cable hooked up to my Slingbox which sits on top of the HR24. What device can I use to solve this problem given the Slingbox does not have a HDMI input?
    Hope that made sense.
     
  8. davring

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    That's essentially the same set up I have. I just installed the HDMI switch between the HR24 and my Sony. There is nothing else plugged into the switch except the TV. Ensure the power remains on to the switch, so the HR24 thins it is connected to a TV. It works perfectly on every channel, been very reliable. Leave your Slingbox connected as you have it now. For convenience, I installed the switch at the back of the TV.
     
  9. harsh

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    If you change the "is going to be practical" to "isn't going to be practical, the first sentence starts making sense.

    If you're using the HR24's HDMI connection at all, that's where they system breaks down. DIRECTV does some funny-business with HDCP (and they're not alone) when it comes to presenting HD content that is flagged. The funny-business I speak of is turning off component output when the content is protected and an HDMI connection is present. This is why Sling provided component pass-through.

    Slingboxen do some pretty awesome things but changing how your DVR works isn't one of the things it can fix.
     
  10. MarkN

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    Hey harsh, thanks for your comments don't know what we would do without you!!
     
  11. MarkN

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    Harsh. What is a slingboxen????
     
  12. peds48

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    There is no "funny-business" at play, not one bit. What is happening is that when HDCP content is flagged the system puts a "prevention" screen that is seen across all outputs, no different then any other live picture
     
  13. StangGT909

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    Bummer, this happened to me as well and affects my HR24/Slingbox as well as my H24 that outputs to a TV in the room via component + 50 ft HDMI for my treadmill in the basement.

    Guess I just won't work out anymore!

    1) Slingbox issue solved by using component as stated above

    2) 50 ft. cable issues as another stated isn't really feasible with component.

    When everyone mentions a powered HDMI switch, are you referring to switchable or not switchable one? Meaning does it do simultaneous output, set it and leave it, or do you have to manually switch it?
    Can you post a link to the recommended one?


    Pretty stupid to implement something like this "now" and only select channels.
     
  14. peds48

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    well, there are many networks owners on the wild an each decides if and when to implement HDCP, Directv just "follows along" since is the law.


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  15. slice1900

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    The "funny business" you speak of is required of HDCP licensees as of Jan. 1, 2014. All devices manufactured after that date must include this restriction. I think technically Directv could have avoided enabling this on older model HD receivers/DVRs that are no longer being made but since their firmware is all built from the same source base they all got it.

    HBO enabled this almost immediately, and there were threads about people running into this last year. Now it looks like Disney is getting in on the act. I would expect within a few years all the major networks will have done this. If for no other reason than the coming of 4K - if 4K is seen as unduly restrictive compared to HD it will hurt its adoption. They aren't going to reduce the protections on 4K, they need to step up the protection on HD!
     
  16. harsh

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    It is a plural of Slingbox. A computer nerd reference that goes back to the day of the DEC VAX where multiple VAX computers were known as VAXen.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/vaxen
     
  17. harsh

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    DIRECTV had two options and not disabling HD via component arguably wasn't one of them.

    The options were:

    1. Downgrade the video and sound on the non-HDMI high quality outputs

    2. Blank and mute the component outputs on flagged content.

    They seem to have chosen a third option which was to ignore the flag if there was no HDMI connected device. This third choice out of two is why I use the term "funny business".
     
  18. KyL416

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    Or less conspiracy theorish...it's just a limitation of the hardware where the same content has to be outputted across the HD outputs, so if the HDCP warning is on HDMI, component has to get it too. It's probably the same reason why the SD outputs don't show the GUI when the receiver is in HD mode.
     
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  19. slice1900

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    The rules of HDCP licensing are not relevant in cases where it is not supported. It only matters when HDMI is connected, when it isn't they do not apply.
     
  20. peds48

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    There, now this is correct. As the DVR is just playing along with what is the government says it can do
     

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