Ethernet - do I need it connected or not?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Steve Rhodes, Jul 26, 2014.

  1. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

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    I don't how we got to two Genies, when DirecTV current policy is not allow two. But when they do, it will probably be setup by DirecTV field techs. The Q is just how many of them wont know how to do a dual setup correctly.
     
  2. inkahauts

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    If it's a swim16 it will be no different than what they do today. It will be simple.
     
  3. harsh

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    Does your monthly bill tell you how the TS's system was initially set up or is it communicated telepathically, subliminally or via e-mail to interested DIRECTV subscribers?

    You claimed that only a Genie could be connected to the router via Ethernet or WHDS would not work. That claim is false. As peds pointed out, the caveat is that there should only be one DECA bridge in the system to avoid error messages.

    You also claimed that HR24s could not be connected to the LAN via Ethernet and that claim, taken at face value, is also false.

    In both cases, as you later admitted, hybrid systems may indeed work just fine. Whether or not the system works is largely independent of what is supported or recommended as the MRV testing phase proved.
    Regrettably you offered reasoning that was technically untrue. Policy, recommendations or common practice should not be construed as being immutable laws of Physics.

    The simple answer is that it should have worked the way it was set up and maybe the system just needed a reboot. Converting to DECA may or may not ultimately fix the issues but it would be another, albeit somewhat more involved, troubleshooting step to try.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    Again, everything i said was right. YOU need to stop. He wanted a simple solution, I gave it to him. You are trying to say I am wrong simply because you can try to, not because you should or that I am wrong. The fact that it can be hooked up in a hybrid way was also discussed and I even chimed in on that. Everyone but you knows I was right about what the OP should do, regardless of your incessant rattling of trying to say otherwise.

    He would have to do a lot more work to make a hybrid system work, including likely buying additional equipment, to bypass the way the system is made to work that would work right by simply unplugging his two hr2xs. But from a dish customer, its not surprising you would tell him you can and should maybe do it the hard way.

    And if you opened your eyes and read this line that I had in the post, it ruins your taken at face value nonsense... "All this does assume you are using a single dish and a swim16 to connect all your system as well,which is what you should be using." you would realize I made it specific to those conditions."

    All my reasoning was absolutely technically true and perfectly accurate.

    And what the heck are you rambling about physics and such?

    You really need to leave this directv forum because you are either wrong or telling peopel to do things the hard way, or far more complex way, and passing misinformation to way to many people when you say things like that. And its just sad that you are trying to do this to people who deserve good help.
     
  5. JimAtTheRez

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    So, the bottom line is that should only have ethernet hooked to my Genie, and let the DECA part handle the rest on the whole home setup? If so, that would explain why I can't see two of my HR24's on my whole home setup. Thanks in advance.
     
  6. peds48

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    That is correct!
     
  7. JimAtTheRez

    JimAtTheRez Legend

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    Thanks peds48. That's what I get for trying to improve things as an amateur, ha!
     
  8. Steve Rhodes

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    I am confused. I am having trouble keeping all of DVRs connected with Whole Home. Is the Ethernet connection part of the problem or not?
     
  9. jimmie57

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    Yes, Ethernet is part of or all of the problem. See post # 2.
    Ethernet should be connected to the Genie only and no other receivers. The internet will then be on the coax giving all the receivers access.
     
  10. peds48

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    How about you tell us exactly about your set up and what is going on so that we may be able to help
     
  11. machavez00

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    When my HR34 was setup the Tech use a CKK even though I have a GB switch for my PS3 and the HR20 it replaced. Is it better to have the HR34 connect by ethernet or the CCK where the modem is at?


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  12. peds48

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    As long as the CCK is the wired kind, there is no difference. You can have either way, but NEVER both
     
  13. inkahauts

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    If you have other recoevers that can do on demand you could make an argument that you are better off with the outboard cck only because when a genie reboots if it's the cck you do lose Internet on all receivers while it's rebooting.

    I personally prefer to save the electricity and use the genie to bridge the network.
     
  14. Steve Rhodes

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    As I said before, I have 4 HR24s and 1 HR34. I had them for a little over a year connected with Whole Home and, of the 5, I had only 2 of the HR24s hard wired into the Ethernet. It worked most of the time but sometimes one of more units would drop off Whole Home, causing me to have to reboot them so all units could see each other. In the past week. it started happening much more so I got advice on the forum.

    The top suggestion seemed to be that I unhook all from the Ethernet and then put Ethernet cable on the H34, which I did. I then rebooted the my router and the HR34 at the same time. Once it was up, I rebooted the 4 HR24s.

    For a day this worked, but now I am having intolerable pauses in audio and in audio and video whenever the program is being piped over Whole Home either from or to the HR34. I can play programs fine across various HR24s without this problem.

    I am at a bit of a loss as to what to try next? Should I hook everything up to the Ethernet? I've got a gigabit router and high speed fiber to the house.

    Suggestions? Thoughts? Possible explanations?
     
  15. Drucifer

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    Except for one rare event -- if the Genie Ethernet is being used and the Genie bites the bullet, so does your VoD and any other Internet for the rest of your boxes. So keep the CCK.
     
  16. Steve Rhodes

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    Does anyone have a suggestion on what to try next? These 2-5 second freezes are trying us crazy?
     
  17. peds48

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    remove the Ethernet connection then do a reset. Post back with the results...
     
  18. Steve Rhodes

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    Let me make sure I understand what you are proposing.

    I should remove the Ethernet from the HR34 and leave it off and then reset the HR34s but do nothing to the HR24s?
     
  19. lugnutathome

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    You can try that Steve: but you may need to rest the whole stack.

    The problem sounds like you have an internet connection kit somewhere in your set up and it is creating conflicting pathways at the router since the Genie is also attempting to act as a gateway. There can be only one.

    You might avoid reboots on the HR24s as long as they currently do not have a Cat5/6 cable connected to its LAN port by using the network settings option off their setup menus. That is faster. . . >check network settings or simple reset network settings should do the trick. There is an option where you can manually add bits you don't want that one :( (at least till we've ruled out all other factors)

    Don "sorry this is all so confusing and that we've spun it into more than just your question" Bolton
     
  20. Drucifer

    Drucifer Well-Known Member

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    I occasionally get these too playing back remote recordings on the HR34 - so you're not do anything wrong. It's the HR34 SW.
     

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