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Even Tivo is not infallible

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by ISWIZ, Mar 20, 2006.

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  1. Earl Bonovich

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    We had one large thread... it got out of control..
    That that particular poster started to post similar type LIST posts... too many things for one thread, and it quickly got out of control.

    So we are taking a different approach....
    One aspect at a time, so it can get the time it deserves and we can have a more indepth conversation on it.




    And regarding "going" through legal.... that is just my speculation...


    Either way...... If they find it prudent to post and particpate in our forums... They are welcome... Until then........ I guess we can only speculate..
     
  2. joegrjoe

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    where is latest in depth feture sticky thread then ?

    also for (in my opinion) to have R15(an all future directv dvr's) be better than R10

    it MUST have all features that R10 had and many more new ones and be stable and not have to babysit it,
     
  3. Earl Bonovich

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    It is at the top of the R15 forum..

    Just so long as it doesn't include all the "features" that are considered bad on the unit... I mean... the slow guide, the limit on WishList results, the color of the unit being lost (aka when it goes to B&W for no reason), the please wait for 5 minutes when you do a significant changes to the Season Pass list.... ;)
     
  4. joegrjoe

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    1. why that face ";) " ?

    2. that list is 3 days old

    how about new ones ? ...
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

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    #1: It is a ;) Wink.... As in... sarcasim, joke, or "this last statement was a restating of the obvious"

    #2: We will start a different topic very shortly...
     
  6. joegrjoe

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    ok, also when oh1F to be loaded by on r15 ?
     
  7. Earl Bonovich

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    oh1F?

    Do you mean the next software version? 10AF ?
     
  8. joegrjoe

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    yea i did, but with this screwball numbering they are using ox1044 108 109 then back to 103

    why not a simple way like this

    r15 ( for model number 1(1st version of software) a(1st update of it)

    then so on

    r151 .... then 1st update be r151a .... and then r151b and so on

    if new version is out r152 then r152a r152b and son on ?
     
  9. Earl Bonovich

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    They are using a HEX number system (at least that is the path they took starting a version or two ago)

    It is just the numbering method they chose. And it isn't that uncommon of a practice (using HEX numbers to denote builds)... Interger number are usually used as the base core version identifiers. But each company chooses their own method.

    10A3 - 10AF (14 builds later)...
     
  10. joegrjoe

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    i understand software is complicated/etc but why not make the numbering system simple ?
     
  11. Wolffpack

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    Wow, so many members lately that don't have a SHIFT key on their PC. :rolleyes:

    EDIT: How isn't 10A3 to 10AF simple? Hex 10A3 = decimal 4259. Hex 10AF = decimal 4271. Thus you have 12 builds not released to the customers. If you program or have to do with releasing software, it makes total sense.
     
  12. Earl Bonovich

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    The number is of importance to the development team...
    All the user needs to do is be able to read it on the screen and report it back to the person asking for it.

    x10A3 ; x10AF is a simple number system... just isn't decimal based.

    Just like the TiVo Version number:
    3.1.5f-01-2-357 (My HR10-250 software version)

    There is sometimes more in a number, then just a version indicator.
     
  13. joegrjoe

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    ?:rolleyes:
     
  14. Clint Lamor

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    I don't see the issue with their numbering scheme. It's fairly easy to understand and actually far easier to read back to someone then a much larger string. I have always dislike the convoluted systems where they start putting . and letters then another . and so forth.
     
  15. thumperr

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    As far as an earlier post on why no 'official' answers from D* there are some very valid reasons.

    - Reg FD, As Regulation Full Disclosure. http://www.sec.gov/rules/final/33-7881.htm This regulation requires public companies to disclose all material information evenly, so that all investors have the information at the same time. Some could argue product improvement and product releases are material information and require a press release from the company. so posting it to a forum would not be full disclosure. This is a matter a company must decide, and would do so with their counsel.
     
  16. joegrjoe

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    O YEAH r151a (which means r15=model of unit 1= 1st version a=1st update)

    and so on for each update

    is sooo much harder to read than 10hf6 for the mass majority of the us population :rolleyes:
     
  17. Wolffpack

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    "h" isn't a valid Hex character. Only goes up to "f" (which = 15). :D
     
  18. Clint Lamor

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    They need to know the model number in there for what reason?
     
  19. carl6

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    I like binary myself...

    0001000010101111 = 10AF

    or perhaps octal: 10257

    But then binary, octal, decimal and hexadecimal are all too common. Why not express it in something like base 27? Or base 6? Oh, hey, it's an R15 so we'll use base 15:D = 13EB

    Carl
     
  20. Wolffpack

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    Octal? Guessing you've worked on an HP somewhere back in time. :grin:
     
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