Experimental Small Slimline3 Dish

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Installation/MDU Discussion' started by Matt9876, Sep 16, 2008.

  1. rich67

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    Hey Matt. how do you go about dithering this phase III dish after getting the basic elevation,azimuth, and skew? I have good signal on 101 but would like improve 99 and 103 if possible.;/
     
  2. rich67

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    sorry, never mind, reread alot of posts I think I know what to do..
     
  3. TwoPhases

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    Let us know how it goes.
     
  4. Matt9876

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    OK ....It's a long thread but looking at the receivers 99 & 103 transponder signal levels with 14 or 16 transponders group you can make the final adjustments to maximize the 99 & 103 signal numbers.

    The tilt adjustment is the key to finding the balance between 99 & 103,elevation and azimuth adjustments can be touchy, a fine point marker can come in handy the first time you adjust one of these dishes.:)
     
  5. rich67

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    thanks much Matt
     
  6. bruceko

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    I gave it a try on my the dish at my cabin
    I used a sl3 multi switch version lnb hooked up to a h21 receiverI tried it both with and without the b band converter .
    When in set up i selected SL3/multiswitch.
    The receiver wound not verify the set up signal on 101 was all zero.
    Using the old 3 sat lnb I get 85 to 100 signal strength on 101
    Any Ideas?
     
  7. Matt9876

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    The 101 signal is the starting point if you can't see anything on 101 it means one of two things.

    #1 Your SL3 LNB with built in multi-switch is defective.

    #2 You did not aim or re-aim the SL3 LNB properly ,you need to watch for the signal strength on the 101 transponder(s) while adjusting the dish or use a separate signal meter like a "Birdog" to find and maximize the 101 signal.

    You won't need the B-band converter connected until you are ready for 99 & 103 signal adjustments/maximization.
     
  8. ohoover

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    My first attempt failed but I think I am close. I have the following equipment:

    --Dish = Phase 3 18x20
    --LNB = 3LS PIG-P (it has 4 lines coming out of it)
    --receiver = HR23-600 (also have an HR24 in house but rather not use it.)

    After reading on the forum that you needed a power supply, I took it to my setup and ran it through from dish to power supply and then to the receiver. I have since found out that will not work as they are incompatiable.

    My question is can I use this setup without a power supply and if so, what dish should I set it to in the "dish setup?" BTW, I did try running it directly through using the #3(18x20 3 LNB) and was able to pick up 101 sat.

    Thank you in advance.
     
  9. Davenlr

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    Receiver powers the LNB. Set receiver to Slimline 3 Multiswitch. NON-SWM
     
  10. cabletech

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    Beware that with that dish, you may not get the HD
     
  11. schneid

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    It will get HD fine. That's what this thread is all about.
     
  12. nhs510

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    Working great, ready for Saturday!

    [​IMG]
     
  13. litzdog911

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    Wow! Very nice!
     
  14. TwoPhases

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    That looks sweeeeeeeeet!
     
  15. Draconis

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    That looks nice, good job in putting it together.
     
  16. Sep 6, 2011 #396 of 497
    isutailgator

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    Glad to see this post is still going, I think you guys can help.

    We tailgate with an old motorhome and I've gone down the path of adding a SL3 to a phase iii dish and setting up on a tripod. Had good results for a couple seasons. This year I thought i would make an upgrade and mount a winegard 18in crank up on the roof. I switched out the 18 dish and single lnb to phase iii and sl3 and got sat 101 right away.

    You guys probably already see my problem, no 99 or 103. I have to assume this is because the manual crank up does not allow for tilt adjustment.

    So two questions:

    1. Can i just point and lock on to either 99 or 103 without adjusting the tilt? Lets say i only want to watch espn in hd, can i pick 99 specifically?

    2. If i must adjust the tilt to receive 99 and 103, have you seen any mods to the crank up that would allow for this?

    For those visual learners picture this with a sl3 head and a phase iii reflector
    winegard.com/mobile/crank.php

    Thanks!
     
  17. Sep 6, 2011 #397 of 497
    doctor j

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    I think to start up you might need to see 101.
    Once locked on 101 you could adjust to 99 or 103 but error messages likely to occur.
    I don't think you'll be happy with the results

    Doctor j
     
  18. Sep 6, 2011 #398 of 497
    isutailgator

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    Doctor J,

    So am i correct that i need to be able to adjust the tilt to really reach sat 99 and 103? And does directv not let you lock on one of the HD sats?
     
  19. Sep 6, 2011 #399 of 497
    Matt9876

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    It's very hard to select 99 or 103 without the tilt adjustment.

    Isutailgator what you are attempting to do just won't work well for HD reception.

    at best you will have missing transponders and error messages with a round dish.

    The oval 18"X20" multi-sat dish and tilt adjustment is a necessity for proper HD reception.
     
  20. Sep 6, 2011 #400 of 497
    schneid

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    Both a Phase III and a "Dish" 1000.2 on a Phase III backplate with an SL3 will snag the 99 and 103 with the Tilt properly set. A "Dish" 1000.2 will require a modded boom with an SL3.

    The 99 and 103 will be weaker but good enough.
     

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