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Explosion reported near finish of Boston Marathon

Discussion in 'The OT' started by trdrjeff, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. dpeters11

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    Yes, it is. The first report I read didn't make that clear. At least we know that have the right suspects, though it is too bad that more died.
     
  2. AntAltMike

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    From the Associated Press, published in the Boston herald:

    A law enforcement intelligence bulletin obtained by the AP identified the surviving bomb suspect as Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, a 19-year-old who had been living in Cambridge, just outside Boston
     
  3. RasputinAXP

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    The wall to wall coverage is a bit crazy.
     
  4. Cholly

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    +1.
    My son called me before I got up this morning and told me to turn on the TV and particularly watch MSNBC. I've been absorbed in watching the TV much of the time now for almost 8 hours, wanting to keep updated on events. I watched coverage on CBS, NBC, CNN during this time period, but most of the time, the TV has been tuned to MSNBC.
     
  5. Drucifer

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    Unbelievable with all the resources the government has at the scene, they can't find a 19 kid in a neighborhood that been shut down since 2 AM.
     
  6. SayWhat?

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    And I haven't watched 10 seconds of it.

    I've read a few articles on the web, but nothing more.
     
  7. MysteryMan

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    The thing that gets me is that these two mutts put in a lot of time planning their bombing spree but obviously didn't put in a once of effort on their escape.
     
  8. James Long

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    It looks like the planned on simply blending back in ... that changed when when they got caught on tape.
     
  9. Cholly

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    As of 9 p.m. Eastern time, the younger brother is in custody, wounded and being transported to a hospital. The young man had been hiding in a boat in the back yard of a home a few blocks outside the area where the intensive searching had been going on.

    Thank God, it's over.
     
  10. houskamp

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    just beginning... now the news can go nuts on the trial...
     
  11. Lord Vader

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    And the blood thirsty, vengeful desire for the death penalty can begin.
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    There's nothing wrong with him being tried, convicted, and executed. The only problem I have is with lethal injection. The chemicals they use are toxins and pollutants. I say go back to the tried and proven method of using rope. It's recyclable and biodegradable.
     
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    He deserves to fry/hang/shot/etc. At least water board him for extra intel before killing him.
     
  14. Lord Vader

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    So waterboarding was unacceptable when Bush was president, but now that our Glorious Leader is in office, it's perfectly OK? You gotta love liberalism--hypocrisy at its finest.

    Anyway...

    I made that death penalty comment not because I'm one of those anti-capital punishment folks--I'm not. However, I did a 180 while a resident of Illinois, where I ended up opposing the death penalty in my home state because of the horrible process by which persons were tried, convicted, and sentenced to death. When a state sends over a dozen innocent men to death row over a relatively short period of time, it's time to ask, "WTF is going on?" I opposed the death penalty in Illinois not because I mistakenly believed the death penalty is unconstitutional; it isn't. The Constitution specifically permits it. Consequently, the death penalty cannot be "unconstitutional" as even several recent SCOTUS Justices wrongly believed it was.

    I would not be opposed to this Boston bomber being executed if that is what the law deems proper. I just don't like the cavalier manner in which some in the media or even the public approach the whole death penalty possibility for this. Why make a big deal over it? If the crimes he committed carry the possible penalty of death, so be it. Let the judicial process run its course; but let's not treat this as if it's some kind of spectacle. The whole idea of that is rather macabre to me.
     
  15. dpeters11

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    I've also seen comments in the press that he shouldn't get trial by jury, or right to an attorney. I think he should get those, though good luck on getting an impartial jury.
     
  16. James Long

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    Gentlemen -- Do not forget that this is not a political forum. Please take any further partisan argument to PMs.
     
  17. Drucifer

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    I wonder if putting him into a Jewish Hospital, Beth Israel, was intentional.

    Haven't seen any report on his injuries. Anyone know what condition he is in? They only have a 48HR window to question him w/o consul under the provision of the law the President cited he be arrested under.
     
  18. dpeters11

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    Last report I saw was he was listed as in serious condition.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    On the death penalty front... I think some people have lost sight of the point of a death penalty.

    The death penalty is NOT a punishment... life in prison, harsh prison life, etc is a punishment... The death penalty should be reserved for those folk that have committed crimes so heinous that even after we punish them for their crimes, we cannot trust them back in society. Some of the serial killers, for example, are candidates where you can't punish them enough for what they did... and you know if you ever let them out again they will kill again... so the death penalty is really not a punishment but a protection for the rest of society.

    That said... I also think we should be very careful about imposing that final sentence on anyone to be sure we have the right person and that he is an irredeemable person.

    In the specific case of the bomber captured here, I gather there is no reason to doubt his guilt in multiple murders... so we have the right person. What's left is to determine "is this a guy that you can ever feel like will not be a danger to himself or others"... and if that answer is no, then he becomes a candidate for the death penalty in my opinion.
     
  20. djlong

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    Having worked at Boston's Beth Israel Hospital for 7 years, they'd only bring him there if that were the closest place or they felt they needed a more comprehensive trauma center than would have been available at Mount Auburn (the closest hospital). BI used to promote their trauma center quite a bit, putting a lot of money and resources into it.

    Now that I think a moment, it's also possible that they brought him there because a crowd was gathering outside Mount Auburn and Beth Israel is a bigger hospital that has a bit more ability to handle high-profile situations.
     

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